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Skriven 2011-03-01 16:12:00 av Glen Jamieson
     Kommentar till en text av Dave Drum
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 -=> Quoting Dave Drum to Glen Jamieson <=-

 GJ>  DD> recorded  European sighting of the Australian mainland and the
 GJ>  DD> European first recorded landfall on the Australian continent
 GJ>  DD> were attributed to the Dutch navigator Willem Janszoon. The
 GJ>  DD> Dutch charted the whole of the western and northern coastlines
 GJ>  DD> of "New Holland" during the 17th  century, but made no attempt
 GJ>  DD> at settlement. Predating Cook by quite a span of years.
 
 GJ>  DD> Sorry (but, not very) to be so pedantic and burst your
 GJ>  DD> bubble(s). Joggerfy (geography) is a hobby of mine.
 
 GJ> Are you sure you are not getting confused with Abel Janszoon Tasman,
 GJ> who sailed around these parts in 1642?  He charted some of the
 GJ> Northern coastline, and sailed between Van Diemen's land and the
 GJ> mainland of New Holland.  Cooky charted the East coast, and took

 DD> http://www.nla.gov.au/exhibitions/southland/Char-Willem_Janszoon.html
 DD> Also: http://www.voc.iinet.net.au/duyfken.html

 DD> Please note that these are BOTH Australian sources.
 
Thankyou for those sources, which I shall enter into my Internet
computer and examine.  They are doubtless more accurate than the USAn
Grolier, which I consulted.  A couple of years ago, a replica Duyfken
called in to Adelaide on a voyage retracing that of the original ship
of that name.  I had a look over it.  About the same size as the
replica Columbus's Pinto I saw in Corpus Christi.  Life was not easy
on those ships.  Cooking was done in a pot over an open fire, but only
when the weather was good enough.

 DD> I only referenced "The first recorded European sighting of the 
 DD> Australian mainland and the European first recorded landfall on the 
 DD> Australian continent ... "

That was very thoughtful of you.
 
 GJ>  GJ> Not on the original map.  On that the lot is called "Amerigo".
 GJ>  DD> I really don't care about an inaccurate scrap of parchment.
 
 GJ> That map was more or less, generally correct enough so that I could
 GJ> recognise that it was your patch of dirt.

 DD> Do you still need to get those cataracts taken care of??

OK, I admit that was before I had the cataracted lenses disintegrated
and sucked out and replaced by decent transparent plastic.
 
 GJ>  GJ> out the best collective name that I was looking for - "The
 GJ>  GJ> Americas".
 
 GJ>  DD> Does not obviate the fact that there are TWO separate
 GJ>  DD> continents - into  either of which one could drop your
 GJ>  DD> "continent" and it would be  swallowed up without a trace. And
 
 GJ> According to some references I have seen, sometimes they are divided
 GJ> into North, Central and South America.

 DD> I have _NEVER_ seen the area referenced as Central America called a 
 DD> continent. It is, properly the southernmost, isthmian portion of the 

I didn't say it was a separate continent.  Central America is
sometimes referred to as a geographically or politically identifiable
section of America, such as in discussions as to the original location
of chillies (or chilies).

 GJ> Even you use "the Americas" (as above), so rather than list all the
 GJ> countries on that double continent, if I wish to, I presume I can
 GJ> use that term with your approval.  After all, there are some

 DD> I use "the Americas" only peripherally, and only when referencing the 
 DD> major land masses in the Western Hemisphere. When referring to the 

Which is what I was intending.  Trying to differentiate between
political and geographical names can be confusing.  For example, is
Hawaii a part of America, or a Pacific island country?

 DD> I do hope to not burn any bridges - for if the Alaskan Ding-bat gets 
 DD> elected President in 2012 I hope to be on the figurative "Last Train 
 DD> From Shanghai" to Canada or New Zealand (where I understand property
 DD> may be bought cheaply these days) where I will apply for political
 DD> refugee  status.

If you think that is at all likely, you have less faith in the USAn
people than I do.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
 
      Title: Whitebait Fritters
 Categories: Appetisers, Mains, Fish, New zealand, Charmaine
      Yield: 4 servings
 
    250 g  Whitebait
      1    Egg
    125 ml Milk
     60 g  Flour
           Salt and pepper
           Oil;for shallow frying
           Lemon wedges;to serve
 
  Rinse the whitebait in a sieve, running cold water through them.
  Leave to drain while preparing batter. Beat egg and milk, whisk in
  flour until smooth, adding salt and pepper. The batter should be of a
  thin, pouring consistency.
  
  When ready to cook, mix in the whitebait. Have the oil heated in a
  heavy frying pan. Drop tb of fritter mixture into the hot oil, not
  too many at one time. Cook quickly until undersides are golden, then
  turn and cook other side. Lift out on slotted spoon onto paper towels
  and cook in batches until all are done.
  
  Serve hot with wedges of lemon.
  
  From: CHARMAINE SOLOMON'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ASIAN FOOD By: CHARMAINE
  SOLOMON, with NINA SOLOMON IBSN 0 85561 688 1 Scanned/Edited by:
  KEVIN JCJD SYMONS, MARCH 2005
  
  From: Charmaine Solomon's Encyclopedia
 
MMMMM
 
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