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Skriven 2014-03-24 20:43:37 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
  Kommentar till text 11251 av Dave Drum (1:18/200.0)
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Hi Dave,

 RH> Actually I think there may be more jobs for the former than the latter.
 RH> I minored in art, had to take a couple of art history classes which
 RH> were quite interesting. We didn't get into it in depth but somewhat
 RH> more than the average Art Appreciation 101 student does. And, sub a
 RH> side salad for the fries for me please, thousand island dressing.

 DD> Not denying that art history can be interesting. So is anthropology
 DD> and vulcanology. Etruscan pottery can come under both of those. Would
 DD> you like something to drink besides the water?

I think I'd go for the art history still, possibly anthropology.
Vulcanolgy could get rather dicey, having seen some shows on how they
work and seeing video shot of them in action working on Kilauea while we
were in HI. One of those jobs where you can really get hot under the
collar. Also, yes, I would like a diet Coke (not pepsi), with no ice.

 DD> campus) I went to. I had signed up for American History and the
 DD> instructor presented a bunch of material with a pretty obvious pink
 DD> (tending toward red) shading -- leading to some knock-down, drag-out
 DD> arguments led by me and a couple others. Come to find out Weasel
 DD> Face's degree was an MA in English and Creative Writing - Poetry from

 RH> Sounds like the college was grabbing any warm body with a Master's,
 RH> irregardless of the field it was in. I took a couple of community
 RH> college classes--they were quite easy but I did put some work into
 RH> them. I didn't argue with the instructor tho. Here, I did question the

 DD> I understand that after they got into their permanent campus that they
 DD> raised the standards quite a bit. And not all of the instructors were,

Good--hate to send people out into the world under educated or
indoctrinated (brainwashed) by instructors who weren't hired to do that.
Unfortunately, a lot of public schools are in that situation now.

 DD> by any stretch of the imagination, as bad a the examples I cited -
 DD> which were, of course, picked (by me) to be bad examples. I took a
 DD> physical geography course from a guy who made it very interesting -
 DD> even though it was not the course I thought I was signing up to take.
 DD> To this day I remember the rainfall figures for Chirapungi, India
 DD> (allegedly the wettest place on earth).

I thought Waimea Canyon, on Kauai had that distinction.

 DD> Southern New Hampshire University; a school I had never heard of until
 DD> I checked into his background for a column I was doing for the campus
 DD> newspaper. I wound up dropping the course for two reasons - firstly, I
 DD> was not learning anything from that dolt and second, it was pretty
 DD> obvious that I was not going to get anything like a passing grade from
 DD> his prejudiced standards.

 RH> Generally it seems if the instructor doesn't care for a student's
 RH> attitude, the student is the one who suffers. I've not heard of that
 RH> school either.

 DD> That's pretty much a law of nature - same with arguing with the
 DD> gendarmes. You know it's going to go in their favour.

Most times, yes but there are occaisional victories for the student who
is right.

 DD> Other states may have different rules but the IACJC (Illinois
 DD> Association of Community and Junior Colleges) mandate only having a
 DD> Master's degree to become a staff instructor. No field qualifications
 DD> specified.

 RH> My BIL was head of the fire fighting school at Champaigne-Urbana campus
 RH> for a while before he moved out west. AFAIK, he only had a batchelor's
 RH> degree--guess a lot of OJT as a firefighter helped him get the job.
 RH> He's done quite a bit of arson investigation on a national level &
 RH> written about it.

 DD> That is something that Illinois does (pretty much the whole state).
 DD> You get credit for lessons learned in the school of hard knocks. Which
 DD> is how I CLEPped into that MA. They tested me and found I was
 DD> experience educated to a Master's Degree level. I audited two classes
 DD> and wrote a paper (they called it a thesis - I called it an article)
 DD> and they granted me a degree. After the University of Illinois too
 DD> over the Sangamon State operation I got a call offering to "upgrade"
 DD> mt degree to a UofI degree. So, I asked if it would make me any
 DD> smarter or just put money in their bank account. After some sputtering
 DD> on the other end I said "I thought not" and quietly hung up.

They didn't offer to ordain you at the same time for a slightly higher
fee? Back in the mid 70s NYC was grabbing up land in the Catskills and
declaring it for tax free uses. A number of folks in the area "got
ordained" by the Universal Life Church so they could declare their
property as "church held" and not pay taxes (which had increased by
NYC's shennanagans.

 DD> The State of Illinois Civil Service rules do not care what sort of
 DD> degree you have if the job requirements list having a college degree
 DD> as necessary for a position. I knew a lady at Illinois Department of
 DD> Agriculture who was in charge of a test lab in the Division of Meat,
 DD> Poultry and Livestock Inspection. Her degree was in Textile Design.
 DD> Bv)=

 RH> Former 4-H er? (G)

 DD> Not that I know of. But, politically well connected. And, as I told
 DD> Weller - it was an admin job not hands-on science work.

So somewhat better, but still not the best for a job like that. Wonder
if the inspectors decide to go vegetarian after a day's work. Wouldn't
surprise me if they did.

 DD> kidlings after the crops are in and up. GMOs and Round-up Ready seed
 DD> has freed up things like an old-timer (like my grandfather's
 DD> contemporaries) would not believe.

 RH> None of the farmers I knew could do that but they were all dairy
 RH> farmers.

 DD> That's why I specified "ca$h grain" in my opening remark. I know you
 DD> can't duck out on livestock or dairy operations - but, plants can be
 DD> pretty self tending ... Like cats.

 RH> Depends on if it's an indoor or outdoor cat. The latter are a lot more


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