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Skriven 2014-08-13 16:12:00 av NANCY BACKUS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: Re: musicke 774
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-=> Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-09-14  23:37 <=-

 ML>> Stokowski encouraged some leeway when he conducted the American
 ML>> Symphony Orchestra (but not New York or Philadelphia). It was
 ML>> the Orpheus Chamber Orchestra, where some of my friends worked,
 ML>> where a certain leeway was encouraged, but only when agreed on
 ML>> in rehearsal.
 NB>> The one I'm trying to think of is a fairly current one... only this
 NB>> year it was that I heard the discussion with the conductor in question
 NB>> about the concept of allowing the leeway in concert...  Terrible when
 NB>> one's memory just won't cooperate...  ;0
 ML> Too bad - the topic is interesting. I fear, though, that
 ML> the conductor's disquisition referred to solo lines within
 ML> an orchestral piece, rather than the massed sections or the
 ML> music as a whole.

Possibly only solo lines, but the impression I got was of also within
the massed sections...  He was saying something about the spontaneity
being a better good than the possible raggedness would be a bad...  If I
hear or figure out who it was, I'll let you know...  It's possibly one
of the guest conductors from last year's RPO season, and maybe the
interview I heard will be part of the broadcasts (they just started the
second iteration of the season) and I'll catch it when it comes by.  One
can hope, anyway..  (G)

 ML>> I've always enjoyed being one on a part but detested being
 ML>> alone alone.
 NB>> Some parts stick out more than others... ;)
 ML> Sticking out is okay. Sticking out without support is
 ML> a very tough thing.

Quite.
 
 ML>> The difficulties for women in careers were enormous.
 ML>> Remember again that Fanny Mendelssohn
 ML>> had to have her songs published under her brother's name.
 NB>> Hadn't forgotten that... And I don't deny that in most cases the
 NB>> difficulties were definitely enormous...  Just that there were a few
 NB>> that managed to beat the odds... :)

 ML> Nannerl Mozart was treated like a trained monkey, though by
 ML> some accounts she was as talented as her brother (Wolfgang
 ML> also, but he grew out of it); 

Leopold thought he had a good thing going...  ;0  Wolfgang wrote his
4-hand duets for himself and his sister, I understood...  Dunno if she
ever played them as an adult, though...

 ML> there was pretty much no place for a woman in any
 ML> professional or intellectual position until relatively
 ML> recently. Clara might have found a niche had her career not
 ML> been subordinated to that of her husband, but it's not clear
 ML> how seriously she would have been taken. I can't think of a
 ML> woman with an independent career in the field like between
 ML> Hildegarde and the Boulanger sisters. 

Amy Beach, maybe...?   I've not made a in-depth study of it, but have
been at least aware of women in music...  There were a number of women
active in writing hymns, both words and music, but that may be not quite
the same topic...  :)

 ML> It of course was worse in the performing arts than in literature
 ML> where one could hide behind a male name or similar subterfuges.

Like Currer Bell and her sisters, George Sand, etc...  If they weren't
seen, who'd know that they weren't male...  ;)

ttyl         neb

... A loaf of bread, a jug of wine and <occupant>.

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