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Text 17791, 152 rader
Skriven 2014-10-06 11:22:32 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
  Kommentar till text 17761 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
Ärende: Peppers
===============
Hi Ruth,

> If we decide to go with tomatoes--we know there are deer in the
> neighborhood and don't want to be feeding them again. (G)

I suspect our dogs frighten deer away since we haven't been bothered with them.
I've read that if you put human hair clippings in a garden say in the lanes of
the garden, it will discourage deer but I have never tried that..

We had some rabbits in the area when we first moved to this house.  After the
first few weeks though, we found a dead rabbit (quite large, as well) ... I
find it kind of insane, but I think one of our kitties got the rabbit. Since
these cats were feral when we got them from the Shelter, I guess they are
mighty hunters (grin).

> We can't officially do anything over at the new place until we close,
> the week before Thanksgiving.

Yep, understand... I guess a lot of what I typed I hoped you could keep for
reference :)

>> as well, and if you can't find late growing varieties, you can order
>> them from seed houses.  This year I was so late getting the garden in,
>> I found late season summer squash, which worked out really well.  We
>> are still getting them now though normally one wouldn't if I'd gotten
>> an early summer variety.

> Steve doesn't like the summer squashes that much so it's better for me
> to buy the amounts I use. OTOH, winter squash would be a "go" in the
> garden.

Makes sense.  Summer Squash does have a tendency to proliferate (like zucchini
hehe).   I don't usually put that many seeds in for squash, that way I
don't get overwhelmed..  For instance I wouldn't put in a "row" of summer
squash. That would take over (g)... I maybe plant two  "hills" of say 4-5 seeds
in each hill.. then I only keep the strongest plant in each hill that emerges.

"Controlled Squash" hehe   One year I _was_ inundated with squash so I leaned
quickly that more isn't always better.

> I had read what zone we're in, but have forgotten so I'll have to look
> it up again.

I usually go by the current weather since it's been so changeable it seems ...
Technically we in Zone 5a.

>> planted them on the day after St. Patricks day. In the fall, when the
>> ground is warm, you dig a trench then in the spring no matter what the
>> weather, you can plant peas in the trench just pushing them them into
>> the soil.  You don't want to bother the dirt too much before the soil
>> is "ready", so you just push the peas seeds in the dirt.

> By the time we can do anything, the ground will have cooled off too much
> for planting this year. I'll keep that in mind for next year; we both
> like the sugar snap peas.

Sure.. I usually plant bush greenbeans because they don't need support (like a
trellis), and sugar snap peas because I don't like to pod peas as I
mentioned...

In January you can plot out your garden on paper and figure out what will fit
where, and what plants are good to plant near each other.  Some don't like
being near some types.. and some really love being near others. For instance, I
always plant basil all around the tomatoes because that keeps bugs away from
the tomatoes :)

>> The soil will feel like chocolate cake when you grab a clump in your
>> hands - that's when it's ready for normal planting. So that trench you
>> dug in the fall is already done, you don't have to harm the
>> consistency of your soil in early early spring.  The peas will sit
>> there through the ice and snow and will even pop up through the snow
>> <g>  You stick some twigs in the dirt later for support, and let them
>> take off.

> Do nothing gardening--sounds like fun.

It's just so great to see green living things spurt up through the snow after a
long winter.. at least in NY (G)

>> > up, but this year was cool on into April.

>> Sometimes you can benefit from that coolness, planting lettuce,
>> spinach, etc. They love cool weather and start to bolt when the summer
>> heat hits.

> It hits early around here but we had a cooler than normal summer this
> year.

Sometimes as far as the garden goes, the weather just doesn't want to
cooperate... usually those years one particular type crop will do better than
others.  Beets are neat that way, since they grow well in most conditions..
like you may not get beets with a late planting, but you can eat the greens
like spinach, that kind of thing.

>> > latter part of November--might be able to get a few decent days to
>> do > some yard work before the end of the year.

>> That will be great.. fantastic time to move in.. Christmas just around
>> the corner :)

> Decorate the house with boxes!

hahaha.. yes, well, ask Dale what it was like after we moved in here.. I think
we were able to get most of the boxes unpacked for that picnic, but there were
still a number laying about IIRC (g).

>> Look to see if neighbors have put a tree through a wood chipper.  They
>> may be happy to have you remove the resulting pile of smashed tree :)
>> If you are going to add pulverized wood to your soil, you want it to
>> be 'ground' up finely :) You can use wood chips (larger) as mulch.

> Steve missed a chance yesterday--the town took down a tree near us. He
> didn't go over to get any chips. Sigh!

Hope you can find some later :)

>> healthy-looking pepper and tomato plants.  I had about 5 earth-boxes
>> so rather than drag out the tiller, I used those for my "garden"
>> filling them with a soil/peat moss mix. Next year I will have those
>> boxes all ready for early planting, so that is something <grin>

> So did you get a good yield for the freezer, etc?

Peppers, yes, cucumbers, a couple of bottles of pickles and earlier, some in
salad. I planted Italian green peppers and they did really well. I didn't plant
that many tomato plants,  I think just 2.. You're a little limited in the
number of plants you can plant in an earthbox. That was enough though for the
summer and several pots of tomato sauce from fresh tomatoes.

Next year I may do two boxes of tomatoes so I'd have 4 plants then, we'll see.
This season I only planted summer squash and bush greenbeans in box1 (one row
each). Tomatoes/basil in box2. Oregano, parsley, (more basil) and peppers in
box3. Cucumbers in box4. Potatoes in box5 (they really took off).  I have about
6lbs. of potatoes in a brown bag in the basement doorway where it's cool all
the time.  Some of those potatoes are huge! (g) I started the potatoes indoors
really early in the spring in a large-ish flower pot, figuring if I did nothing
else because I was too tired or "whatever", I could at least transplant my
potato plant into an earth box hehe

I just picked maybe 4 more cukes yesterday.. I figured before the temps dropped
too much here, I'd grab them.  I had that earth box next to the chain-link
fence for the dogs, so the vines grew up all over it.. One day about a month
ago, I was outside checking the earthboxes and caught my idiot dogs helping
themselves to cukes that were growing on "their side" of the fence!  The
stinkers!  I pushed any that were on their side over to the exterior needless
to say :)

Take care,
Janis

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