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Skriven 2014-10-09 20:30:00 av NANCY BACKUS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av RUTH HAFFLY
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-=> Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 10-04-14  19:06 <=-

 NB>> Yup...  there's a different synergy at work when caring family or
 NB>> friends enter the picture actively...  :)
 RH> And, going about an idea from a different tack than "you must" makes a
 RH> big difference. Dad finally had the ramp put in 2 years ago when Don
 RH> told him that without it, Mom was a prisoner in her own house. Ouch,
 RH> yes, but true so Dad acquesced. We'd been fussing at him to get one
 RH> put in but it took Don's blunt statement to get it done.
 
And his seeing it from his wife's perspective probably had an influence
on his understanding the necessity of the ramp... as well as for the
stair lift... 

 NB>> Eating out isn't always the same as eating at home...
 RH> Very true, but I've not seen Bill that much since I left home. Up in
 RH> M'ville from time to time, having to eat Mom's cooking or the
 RH> occaisional meal out but really, not that much. I cooked for both
 RH> brothers, Dad, Steve and myself the one night when we were up in May.
 RH> I made a beef stew, set a loaf of bread with it and both brothers ate
 RH> like they'd not eaten in months, instead of hours.

Well, there, I think you might have an indication that at least they
both enjoyed your cooking... ;)  And that might be a touch point for
discussing cooking/eating in general...  :)

 NB>> and sometimes some things aren't eaten at home because it's seen as
 NB>> being too much effort...
 RH> Especially for one person, even multiple servings.

The thought of one meal ending up having to be eaten for many days is
rather daunting for many people...  especially if they never got the
concept of planovers vs leftovers... ;)

 RH> I'll have to get Bill's opinion on rice. If he makes any, it's
 RH> probably Minute or a boil in bag type.

If he does make Minute or boil-in-bag type, he'd certainly find the
microwave rice (if available where he is) easier, and probably tastier
as well..  Doesn't have to even boil water for them...  :)

 RH> Auto pilot with blinders then. Blinders that steer only to good
 RH> choices, not bad. A good session on label reading, especially the
 RH> nutrition label, before even hitting up the store would be a good
 RH> starting point. Then, at he store, point out the nutrition information,
 RH> good and bad, what a better choice might be.

Maybe an even more basic starting point would be just to chat about
eating and foods in general (that could also give you a clue as to what
his tastes are)...  Pointing out the nutrition info, and how to
find/read it is also a useful exercise.  Between the nutrition labels
and the price labels, we managed to talk MJ out of a LOT of bad choices,
without even an argument, just a little guiding her thought process.. ;)

 RH>> Not really; whenever we've been together in M'ville, we eat what is
 RH>> cooked for everybody. Even in the times we've been there & eaten out,
 RH>> it's been at my folks favorite place for schnitzel and all the plates
 RH>> come with the same sides. 
 NB>> In that case, you'll have to let him tell you, I guess...  :)
 RH> IOW, like pulling teeth to get a straight answer.
 
As I said above, getting him talking about food might be an easier way
to get the conversation started...  You might have to listen closer for
the answers to your real questions, as to tastes and choices, but he
might be more willing to discuss if it feels more like just a discussion
of food, and less like a seminar... ;)

 NB>> You can probably start with some basic assumptions, such as ability
 NB>> to use a microwave...  and what a basic diabetes diet looks like... 
 RH> How to use a microwave to cook good for him food, how to figure carb
 RH> counts, having a good mix of carbs and proteins in a diet, etc, etc.

The figuring and the balancing might be more of a job for the dietician,
unless he happens to ask you directly for input... I've found that when
someone asks you, even if they don't really like the answer, at least
they are more inclined to listen...  ;)
 
 NB>> and that he isn't going to be keen on doing quite the regimen you put
 RH> Just have to get the idea across that if he doesn't do the regimen, he
 RH> will end up in the same, or worse, situation.

That's probably the job of his medical personnel, unless, as above, if
he actually asks for your input... seeing as you've just been through it
already (mentioning that might also be a defuser, btw)...

 NB>> yourself on (with Steve's help)... and go from there... :) 
 RH> Having Steve's help was a big plus for me.

And he isn't going to have quite that built-in benefit.

 NB>> Down the line, he might become interested in actually learning how to
 NB>> cook things and get more into healthful eating... but who knows.  ;)
 RH> I'm not betting the farm on that. He's more of an Eat than Burt!

I wouldn't bet the farm either... but it might happen... stranger things
have...  ;)
 
ttyl      neb

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