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Skriven 2014-11-26 10:29:00 av Dave Smith
     Kommentar till en text av Michel Boucher
Ärende: Re: OT: St. Louis shutting down.
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On 2014-11-26 9:48 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:Ruldw.619428$412.267931@fx30.iad:
>
>> Do you always ask questions to pretend to make a point instead
>> of presenting facts and reasoned arguments?   I would say that
>> many of them made great strides. There are a lot more black
>> doctors, lawyers, professors and teachers. They moved out of
>> the ghettos. They started getting more education.  Some.
>
> And they still regularly get stopped while driving their cars, and
> harassed by police.  They took the steps but honky didn't.  It's a
> quid pro quo and the quo is very much absent.
>

Yep.... and they commit a lot of crimes.  Police in Toronto have come
under fire for carding young men, checking their ID and keeping track of
them.  It is still being done in high risk neighbourhoods and they are
complaining that they are an inordinate number of black kids being
stopped.  OTOH, it does seem to have resulted in a slight drop in
violent crimes.

A number of years ago the Toronto police were under fire for keeping
races bases crime stats and had pointed out that blacks accounted for
only 10% of the population of the city and accounted for 90% of the
violent crime.  Of course the usual suspects whined that it was racist
to keep the stats and racist to point out what had already become
apparent to most people. Not all spokespeople for the black community
were outraged. Some pointed out the other side of the equation, that
black people were also the victims of those crimes.

The practice was stopped, but years later they whined that black people
were being subjected to traffic stops in inordinate numbers and being
charged for "blind offenses" like driving without a license, driving
under suspension, things the cops would not likely know until after they
were stopped.

They may think they have a point but it is easily explained. The sort of
people who don't get licenses, drive under suspension or without
insurance often commit moving offenses.  Those are often hard to prove
in court and are often let go with a warning, but if they find the more
serious violation after pulling them over they would lay the charges. I
don't think it has anything to do with race. However, I am left
wondering how it is that these people object to strongly to race based
states, where are they getting their numbers?

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