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Skriven 2014-11-26 10:51:00 av Dave Smith
     Kommentar till en text av lucretiaborgia@fl.it
Ärende: Re: OT: St. Louis shutting down.
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On 2014-11-26 10:18 AM, lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:31:14 -0500, Dave Smith
> <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-11-26 7:15 AM, lucretiaborgia@fl.it wrote:
>>
>>>> Much of that is fueled by the actions of a handful of blacks that are
>>>> rioting, burning and destroying businesses.  Maybe that should be changed?
>>>
>>> For many years they were quiet, compared to the sixties, but where did
>>> that get them ?
>>
>> Do you always ask questions to pretend to make a point instead of
>> presenting facts and reasoned arguments?   I would say that many of them
>> made great strides. There are a lot more black doctors, lawyers,
>> professors and teachers. They moved out of the ghettos. They started
>> getting more education.  Some.  Others were stuck in the old cycle of
>> poverty, young women with a bunch of children by different fathers, all
>> absent from home.
>>
>>
>>>> First, it was not a cop that killed Trayvon Martin.  I don't see any
>>>> comparison between the two scenarios.  Neither of us was at either of
>>>> these so neither of us can draw conclusions.
>>>
>>> It was a copwannabe though and his demeanour after the event says
>>> volumes.
>>>
>>
>> WTF is that supposed to mean. Do you have any information about
>> Zimmerman every applying for a job with a police force? If he did, he
>> must have been rejected. There are lots of vigilante types that would
>> never want to be cops, and many would would never make the grade.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Odd how both he and Wilson suddenly developed 'injuries' after the
>>> event and I thought it was terrible that Wilson gave an interview last
>>> night, should not have happened.
>>
>> You are assuming that because you were unaware of the injuries that they
>> happened later.  Perhaps you should clear off your bifocals and
>> eliminate the pseudo intellectual prejudice you have about all white
>> cops being racist thugs and read the facts about the case.  There was
>> that initial "eyewitness" account by a young man who claims to have seen
>> everything that happened to his friend.  It is amazing that he saw it in
>> such incredible detain since he claimed to have been running for his
>> life at the time.
>>
>> He said that Wilson tried to wrestle Brown into the cruiser, which is
>> absolute bull shit. No one in their right might would try to wrestle a
>> person into the car, especially when the person is so much bigger. He so
>> obviously lied about so many details that nothing he said can be
>> believed. There were a number of  similar accounts, apparently
>> fabricated after that series of lies was broadcast and the witnesses did
>> admit that they hadn't actually seen it.  Then there were a couple of
>> eyewitnesses, all black, whose accounts match both Wilson's account and
>> the physical evidence.
>>
>> Feel free to ignore the actual facts of the case. Many others are.
>
> Being rude really doesn't say much for your case, I assume from what
> you adamantly claim you are privvy to all the facts of the case.



Being rude???? Is that the best you can do?  You made a lame comment
about Zimmerman being like Wilson because he is a wannabe cop, but you
provided no proof that he had ever even applied to be one.  My reply
might have compelled you to do a little bit of research to try to prove
your point. Now I am left wondering if you bothered to take a minute to
do that or if you think you can reinforce your position by consciously
deciding to remain ignorant.

I have no inside information on the case. I researched it online and
watched the news reports. It is all there for anyone who cares to bother
to acquire information at the risk of allowing facts to interfere with
their opinions.

I have had use of force training and knew as soon as the
eyewitness/accomplice talked about Wilson trying to wrestle Brown into
the car that he was lying because that would have been a pretty stupid
thing to do. I also pointed out that they kid said that he was running
for his life yet was able to see what was happening behind him.

I won't bother wasting my time to point out the details that have been
widely reported because you obviously have no interest in what really
happened. Instead, you will pat yourself on the back for assuming that
all cops are racist bigots and never see the irony of your own prejudice.

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