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Skriven 2014-11-17 01:11:00 av Julie Bove
     Kommentar till en text av Doris Night
Ärende: Re: Is Gluten Sensitivity for Real?
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"Doris Night" <goodnightdoris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:12:10 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> <juliebove@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:mphh6ahocs4laildb4jbdaio2opn6373pt@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> <juliebove@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rp4h6atiin8u9hqotgkmsf1mcr5jiu2872@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:34:09 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > <juliebove@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:ppfe6a9tghqf7hkc8hshdiqln3a7olbkpc@4ax.com...
>>>> >> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:55:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> >> > <juliebove@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:356d6a1lca0eh0ahhh0f2ci32ka2qn4uns@4ax.com...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > People who *need* to eat gluten free ensure that they do it by
>>>> >> >> > not
>>>> >> >> > buying processed food and cooking from scratch.  Why is this
>>>> >> >> > such
>>>> >> >> > a
>>>> >> >> > hard concept to understand?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Hardly!  I was a poster on the celiac forum for many years and I
>>>> >> >> still
>>>> >> >> read
>>>> >> >> posts there from time to time.  Many of the newly diagnosed are
>>>> >> >> college
>>>> >> >> students, or young mothers who perhaps have a newly diagnosed
>>>> >> >> child.
>>>> >> >> Many
>>>> >> >> are looking for things like canned chicken soup or Goldfish type
>>>> >> >> crackers.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If they are true celiacs and don't prepare their own food from
>>>> >> > scratch, they are fools.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nonsense!  There are plenty of guaranteed gluten free foods out
>>>> >> there.
>>>> >
>>>> > They are total fools if they buy processed food.
>>>>
>>>> Really?  And yet I know that you buy processed food.  What does that
>>>> make
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> Pay attention and stay on topic.  I am not a celiac or allergic to
>>> anything.  Your constant kitchen sinking is boring.
>>
>>Kitchen sinking?  What are you even talking about?  A person with celiac
>>can
>>just as easily eat processed food as one who doesn't have it.  Yes, they
>>do
>>have to read labels and some will call companies before eating things.
>
> Julie, you really have to brush up on your Googling skills.
>
> What is Kitchen Sinking?
>
> http://work911.com/communication/conflictkitchen.htm

I rarely use Google and never heard that term before.  But I did look at the
link and I can't see in any way shape or form how any of that would apply to
me.

"Kitchen sinking involves throwing all kinds of events, or misdeeds of
another person, at them all at once. In it's worst from a conversation about
who's supposed to take out the garbage today might turn into a discussion of
what someone did ten years ago. It's an extremely destructive way to
communicate, because:
  a.. it focuses on the past over which nobody has control
  b.. it overwhelms the person on the receiving end, and the present issue
almost always gets lost
  c.. it destroys trust between people
You should know that kitchen sink communication is common, particularly in
marriages, but it also happens in the workplace, and is a "normal" but
unfortunate way of communicating. Often it happens because a person stores
up his or her hurts or perceived slights, until the point when the tide of
anger can't be held back. For some other people, kitchen sinking can be a
way of trying to feel better about themselves, or to justify their anger, or
feelings of being hard done by.

In any event it's a poor way to conduct oneself."

I just don't get it.  I didn't really bring up events or misdeeds except for
sf's buying of processed foods.  And I know that she does buy them because
she has posted of it here before.  I think most people here buy at least
some processed foods.  Most people do.  And seeing as how there is a whole
entire gluten free market out there, I can't see why people who have celiac
would be fools to buy it.

I never said that sf was gluten free or celiac or anything of the sort.

A celiac who buys canned beans is in no way any more likely to get cross
contaminated than one who buys dried beans, bulk or otherwise.  In fact in
many cases they are less likely to be cross contaminated.  Unless they buy
them at Trader Joe's or Walmart where many of the items they sell have a
shared lines warning on them.  And most people with food issues would not
buy anything with that disclaimer on there.

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