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Skriven 2014-12-09 00:31:00 av Julie Bove
     Kommentar till en text av Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ärende: Re: Paleo Naan bread
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"Orlando Enrique Fiol" <ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2ef06a06d75061d5989a95@news.albasani.net...
> In article <54866F36.4083.recfoodc@piz.noip.com>, michel.boucher@1 wrote:
>>Orlando, quite clearly, you have missed the point.  The paleo diet
>>suggests introducing "old" concepts into the current food system.
>>The point is that they are not really "old" concepts, any more than
>>people practicing Wicca are actual pre-Colombian witches.
>
> Most culinary concepts combine ingredient families with specific cooking
> processes. Across cultures, breads have tended to be made with wheat
> flours or
> those of other harvested grains such as tef in Ethiopia. They have not
> generally been made with flax seeds, almond meals and coconut oils. These
> recipes are scientifically rather than culturally developed because people
> on
> certain diets want to simulate foods that were originally designed to be
> made
> with specific ingredients. These foods did not last for millennia because
> they
> were made with the wrong ingredients. On the contrary, vain modern humans
> believe they're entitled to any food they can simulate without its
> consequences. We want sweetness without the consequences of eating fruits
> or
> natural sweeteners. We want flatbread without having to consume wheat
> flour. We
> want fake tofurkey without having to kill actual turkeys. It's the same
> conceptual flaw.
>
>>Think of it as a framework to use to improve the diet you currently
>>have.  I don't think anyone seriously suggested that we should go
>>back to hunting and gathering.
>
> The whole point of changing diets is not to transplant my existing
> framework to
> another set of ingredients; it's the discovery of new foods made from
> different
> ingredients.
>
>>So if people now like flatbreads, how can they do them within this
>>framework.  I myself am looking forward to making the samosas.
>
>
> Good luck with that. Samosas need whole wheat flour in order for their
> dough to
> be flaky and tender. No matter how much coconut oil you use, you will
> never
> recreate the texture and flavor of wheat flour and gluten activation.

People also have clear reasons why they eat the way that they do.  A person
who becomes ill from eating wheat, no matter the reason is simply going to
have to do their best approximation and come up with something that works
for them.

There was a time when I mostly followed a raw vegan diet.  No, I am not a
vegan but eggs and dairy do make me sick.  As do most meats.  And I learned
the hard way that most vegetables do too.  Food is not my friend!  But I did
make a raw onion bread with flax in it that did not taste of onion and also
had the appearance and texture of a real whole grain bread.  It was a bit of
a PITA to make as it needed to be dehydrated at a low temp. to get the
desired results.  I suppose if you wanted a cracker type bread and you
weren't into the raw aspect of the diet, you could use a higher temp. or
even the oven.  But I did not.

I think the whole problem comes into play when we label things.  If she
hadn't called that a Paleo recipe and gave it some other name, there
wouldn't have been a problem.

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