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Skriven 2013-05-02 23:33:38 av RUTH HANSCHKA (1:123/140)
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Ärende: Greenies
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->  -> If the large numbers of windmill propeller blades at the Siemens 
plant
->  -> at Ft. Madison, IA are any indication - it will soon pass the atomic 
pile
->  -> plants.
-> 
-> SR> One can but hope. They're apparently noisy if you're near them, but 
it
-> 
-> You've been listening to the alarmists again. That's not true unless one 
of the
-> generators has a bearing squealing down the road to seizure. There were 
claims
-> that chickens wouldn't lay, that cows wouldn't breed/produce milk, etc., 
etc.,
-> etc., ad nauseum. Not of which stood up to the harsh light of reality.

You would eventually get used to it, but any moving object just about has
to 
make some noise.  Whether it's objectionable or not depends on who's 
listening. And they have to be one up on nuke plants.  My late dad worked
on 
those too.  Hated them, and hated the waste they produced worse.  He'd have 
loved the wind turbines.
 
-> The truth is that some rich-bitch landowners didn't want those "nasty
old
-> windmills" disturbing their bucolic paradise. And they got some "wasn't
-> invented here" and NIMBY types to go along.
-> 
There's always an idiot in there somewhere.  They don't want them uglying
up 
the landscape.  

-> Collisions with wind turbines account for about one-tenth of a percent
of 
all
-> "unnatural" bird deaths in the United States each year. And of all bird 
deaths,
-> 30 percent are due to natural causes, like baby birds falling from nests
-> [source: AWEA]. So why the widespread misconception that labels wind 
turbines
-> "bird-o-matics"? It all starts with California, raptors and the
thousands 
of
-> old turbines that make up the Altamont Pass wind farm.

Not to mention cats.  Cats probably nail more small birds than the turbines 
ever dreamed of. 
 
-> SR> sure beats burning oil.  My late father worked on legacy power
plants 
-
-> SR> the pre- WWII stuff.  He dealt with old coal and oil-fired stuff all
-> SR> the time.  He liked the hydro plants much better.  They were clean.
-> 
-> I thought your dad did engines for GE. Must have been someone else's
pop.

He never worked for GE.  Hamilton Standard yes, during the space race, and 
later Pratt & Whitney but not GE.   

->  -> can, cheek by jowl with other tin cans ....
-> 
-> SR> Not so much, in other words.  You could get solar foil for the roof,
-> SR> most likely.  I've thought about doing it here, but chances are it
-> SR> would cost more than it's worth. I don't get enough sun.
-> 
-> Too many trees - see my comments about the birds eating the mulberries 
and
-> leaving purple splotches on my car. And the helicopters from the maple 
trees.
-> Not to mention the tree of heaven that I wish I could figure out how to 
kill.

I get the propellers too, but no mulberries.   

-> SR> That's a good trick. My old calculator from high school is 100%
solar
-> SR> powered.  It still works just fine, probably because I go even older
-> SR> school most of the time and use a pencil and paper.
-> 
-> My calculator is a left-over from my computer store days - a 3.5" floppy 
disk
-> looking thing (remember those?) promoting Amiga computers (remember 
those?).
-> Solar powered and works rather better than I thought it would after all 
these
-> years.  Bv)=

No battery compartment to be killed by old batteries left in it for too 
long.  I just threw out some old floppies.  Nothing left to read them on.
 
-> SR> I'm down in a hole with trees over top.  We could put some on top of
-> SR> the local "mountain" and might if there weren't a bunch of million
-> SR> dollar homes up on the ridge with loudly complaining owners.
-> 
-> See my comment above about who is driving the noise complaints about
wind
-> arms.

No need; NIMBYs are universal.
 
-> The oven is a lot easier to design, build and set up than a flat plate
-> grill/hob heated from underneath by solar. My flat grill is fairly
small,
-> involves a copper plate (for heat distribution) and one has to be
careful 
not
-> to A: get burnt or B: shade the solar power too much.

That could be a problem.  
 
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