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Text 9113, 170 rader
Skriven 2014-01-23 16:15:52 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
   Kommentar till text 9058 av Nancy Backus (1:261/1381.0)
Ärende: putting up  was: Thig                                    [1]
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Hi Nancy,

 RH> bother them. It enabled them to pay for our college with minimal loans
 RH> and they paid the loans off for me (don't know about my siblings).

 NB> Our college was paid for by Daddy teaching at RIT so we got tuition
 NB> free... at least for those of us that went there.  The ones that went

Every little bit helps. My older brother did 2 years at SUNY Albany, one
sister did a year at a private college, then Paul Smith's, other brother
did Paul Smith's and other sister did Houghton.

 NB> elsewhere had to take care of their own... but it did make for no
 NB> loans hanging over us later.  Richard's mom paid for most of his, too,
 NB> so we
 NB> were in a position to do similar for our son.  Helped, probably, that
 NB> there was only one of him... at least on that score...

Our girls paid their own. Deborah did a semester at a 2 year school and
some Embry Riddle, plus some on line classes. Rachel went to the local 2
year school for a semester, then got married & finished 2 year school in
Charleston. She then transferred to City of Charleston for her BA & has
done on line Master's work.


 RH> My folks were thrifty shoppers as well. There aren't (weren't) any
 RH> bakery thrift stores in M'ville but Mom & Dad did hit them up in
 RH> Kingston or Oneonta (after they got the freezer). Their day to day
 RH> bread was the cheap white sandwich stuff; they've not upgraded much in
 RH> that regard since all of us have left home.

 NB> I think that Daddy may not have liked cheap white sandwich bread very
 NB> much, there never was a lot of it in the house, and he was doing the
 NB> buying...

I think my folks liked the cheap stuff. (G) They've bought some better
breads but use them for "special" sandwiches, keeping the bread in the
freezer & pulling out only what is needed. That's only since I've left
home. They also used to stop at "Bread Alone" sometimes when they went
to Kingston--look them up--and got some really good breads there. We
stop there from time to time as well. (G)

 NB>  NB>> One gets into patterns that persist even when the dire straits
 NB> ease up  NB>> and the reason for the pattern isn't so insistent...  ;)

 RH> Yes, I've seen that. Part of it is due to the fact Dad remembers the
 RH> Depression and his dad was a blue collar laborer. Money was rather
 RH> tight while he was growing up, and continued to be so until Mom started
 RH> working. Eased off a bit then, more so as kids left home and fewer of
 RH> us to have to feed & clothe.

 NB> The Depression may not have had quite the same impact on my Dad...
 NB> Granddad was career Navy, so there was steady work, and Grandmother's
 NB> family was apparently fairly comfortable, so there was something to
 NB> fall back on for them, growing up.  Not that any of it ended up with

Helps, because the military didn't pay a lot when your granddad was in.
Even now pay isn't competitive with the outside, but it's better than it
was before the 1980s.

 NB> us... ;) We may not have been squeaky penny pinchers, but we were
 NB> taught how to
 NB> live frugally... so that Daddy's income would stretch to cover the
 NB> essentials, including Christian school...

There was no Christian school anywhere near us so we went to public
schools. Mom and Dad penny pinched--one year Dad gave Mom a bean pot for
a Christmas present so they decided the first Sunday of every month,
beans would be the supper meal. Some years later, my grandmother gave us
an ice cream maker so home made ice cream (mostly vanilla) was added to
the bean meal. I don't know when they stopped doing that but I think it
was some time while I was in college.

 NB>  NB>> We weren't allowed to go thru one in a meal, though... it was
 NB> always  NB>> carefully rationed out by Daddy, who always served out
 NB> the entire meal  NB>> for the family (and guests, if there)...

 RH> And he probably did a good job of it.

 NB> He did... to an extent...  At least to the extent that the food always
 NB> stretched way further than most people could have done... ;)  It
 NB> wasn't always large enough portions for a growing teenager, or, for
 NB> that
 NB> matter, for a young married husband of the oldest girl when we came
 NB> for a meal now and then...  Wasn't until my brother got well into the
 NB> teen
 NB> years that Daddy caught on...  I'd have to feed Richard either before
 NB> or after a meal with my family so that he wouldn't go hungry.. ;)

We never went hungry but never were overstuffed either. Mom fixed a lot
of mashed potatoes and side vegetable to go with the meat so we'd fill
up on them. Visiting my dad's sister in North Tonawanda was a treat tho;
she always had lots of food on the table. If you went away hungry, it
was your own fault. (G)

 RH> My dad portioned out most meats (and spaghetti
 RH> or similar) but we could take our own veggie and potatoes. We just
 RH> knew we had to make sure there was enough for everybody. Even if
 RH> you didn't like the veggie, you still had to take a reasonable
 RH> helping--and eat it. Mom portioned out the dessert.

 NB> We were expected to eat what was served out... Daddy, if he knew of
 NB> particular likes/dislikes, might make adjustments accordingly, but
 NB> otherwise that was what you got... Usually the veggies and rice or
 NB> potatoes would get completely divvied up...  a roast would likely go
 NB> for another one or two meals.. you got one small slice usually...

Sounds similar--meat to last more than one meal, potatoes and veggie for
that meal. Dad doesn't like rice (except rice pudding) so it was rarely
used as the starch.

 NB>  RH>> we made it thru those times, lived to tell others about it. (G)
 NB>  NB>> Yup... and managed to at least modify some of the patterns in
 NB> the  NB>> process as well... :)

 RH> Yes, probably easier to go from less to more than more to less tho.

 NB> Probably..  :)  My biggest issue, once I was on my own, was figuring
 NB> out how to scale down the recipes I knew... from serving 10 to serving
 NB> the 2 of us... but "us" was more 4-5 servings from what I was used
 NB> to...  ;)
 NB> We've gone through periods of leaner and fatter years, though... we've
 NB> been able to make the adjustments both ways as needed...  :)

 RH> I've done that as well. Made a big casserole thing for Life Group
 RH> today but since there weren't as many attending, had some left over. I
 RH> split it into a container for the freezer and one put in the fridge for
 RH> tomorrow's supper. It was a simple one of ricotta and cream cheese
 RH> mixed with sour cream; a mix of browned ground beef; onion, bell pepper
 RH> and tomato sauce seasoned with s&p, garlic powder & oregano; and spiral
 RH> noodles. Original recipe had cottage cheese instead of ricotta & less
 RH> bell pepper, plus said to layer pasta, cheese mix, pasta & ground beef
 RH> mix. I mixed it all together (split between 2 13x9 pans) and it tasted
 RH> just as good, have to bring in copies of the recipe now. (G) Served

 NB> Sounds pretty good...  and like you could have saved yourself some
 NB> effort by just bringing copies with you to begin with...  :)

Should have, but didn't realise it would be so well liked.


 RH> with tossed salad and the lemon pound cake (made with half sugar, half
 RH> stevia for baking). Only a couple of slices of that came home. (G)

 NB> Is one surprised...?  (G)

No, that's why I call it the "Vanishing Lemon Pound Cake". (G)

 NB>  NB>> At least with food allergies, there's generally equally
 NB> appealing  NB>> alternatives so that one isn't too badly miffed...  :)
 NB>   For other  NB>> things, there's remembering Who is really in
 NB> control...  ;)

 RH> Yes, and taking things as they come, one day at a time.

 NB> Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof...  :)   Much better not to
 NB> worry ahead of time for things that haven't arrived yet...  :)

And be glad you don't have foresight.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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