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Skriven 2007-03-16 08:44:23 av alexander koryagin
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From: "alexander koryagin" <koryagin@erec.ru>

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Hi, PETER COGGON! How are you?
on Monday, 12 of  March, you wrote to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN about
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 PC>   Britain forgot that in America during the War for Indepedence 1776
 PC> USSR forgot that too, how her people fought back and died, and the
 PC> USA forgot, the lesson of 1776, as well, WW2 and vietnam.

You have written "she" as if "USSR" belongs to feminine gender. Is it really
so in English?


 AK>> As for rural people it is indeed difficult to separate them
 AK>> from partisan. They are indifferent only outwardly. The same was in
 AK>> Hitler invasion to the USSR. Insurgents were called terrorist, bandits
 AK>> etc. But partisan cannot be defeated if even in Iraq's desert why
 AK>> somebody wants to defeat them in mountains where they know all caves
 AK>> and paths. The only way to win the war against partisan is when
 AK>> majority of the population actively supports the invasion.

 PC>   Well they did support the first days, and when US entered Baghdad.,
 PC> But then they also said their thank yous, and hinted they should leave,
 PC> and a arab government would takeover...the USA refused this arab
 PC> comment which they heard a lot.  So now they are in a civil war
 PC> getting more soldiers killed and no way out, as arabs fight to
 PC> takeover Iraq with their own ideas, and one of their views is
 PC> USA OUT!

Yes, many hated Saddam so much that they danced when he was toppled by
Americans. But they not going to go in the direction pointed by the US. Kurd
it is true quite loyal to Americans; they hope to gain independence. But it
is illusion; Turkey will never admits creation of kurdish state near own
border.

 AK>> First of all we must define their aims. For example they fight for
 AK>> their land and faith. Or like in situation when air forces of Hitler
 AK>> bombed Moscow in 1941.  Hiter was near Moscow, and it was too big
 AK>> distance for the soviet planes to make raids to Berlin. Nethetheless,
 AK>> long-ranged planes were created, but they have no aims and gunlayers.
 AK>> So they had been reaching Berlin (at night) and droped their bomb
 AK>> indiscriminately, as a rule over the residential area of Berlin. The

 PC>   Whatever their aims, they must also remember that if they want to
 PC> be regarded as combatants, they must be wearing a uniform.  They also
 PC> must adhear to the Geneva Convention, but then in a war, a lot of
 PC> this goes out the window in the heat of battle.

We are trying to understand where is the border between war and terrorism.

 AK>> survival we will do not use the term "terrorism" even they bombs
 AK>> residential area. Genuine terrorists always were scanty groups.

 PC>   The USA in WW2 were hardly defined as terrorists.  IT was a declared
 PC> war between the Axis and Allied countrys.  They also were signatories
 PC> to the Geneva Convention.   Attacks are only to be taken against
 PC> military and other targets as defined, leaving out and trying to
 PC> avoid civilians.

What about of demolision of Dresden? The Americans plains deliberately
targeted residential arias. It was the act of creating terror among all
Germans.

 PC>   I define terrorists as not going after nothing but to inflict
 PC> death and destruction without regard to the civilians, of that


 AK>> Israel cannot recognize the independent Palestine just because of
 AK>> unlawful borders which were created by itself. What kind of Palestine
 AK>> can Israel recogize? There are at least three Palestines: the first
 AK>> one is in the UN decision when Israel emerged (after WWII), another
 AK>> one a product(s) of many wars in Palestine, and the last one the
 AK>> Palestine as a God-promised land i.e. all Palestine belongs to Israel.
 AK>> As far as Israel is religious state the third one would be considered
 AK>> as preferrable in Israel.

 PC>    As far back as 1880s, the area was considered as nothing there!
 PC> Then a Zionist organization revived the promise of the promised land
 PC> and well when that famed ship the Mercury left europe...they refused
 PC> the ship to land in England, and the USA  < first choice as the
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The region certainly was not as the Australian desert with some Bedouins &
camels. There were millions of people there. Actually it was a decision of
the religious group to enter in and fight for promised land. What they
counted for? Did they think that the war will not take place?

 AK>>> ancient ones (to conquer Palestine as God-promised land) they must,
 AK>>> to be successful, to repeat all actions which were done in the Bible.
 AK>>> I mean to slaughter all enimies by order from heaven after the
 AK>>> conquest.


 PC> Well the Zionists, have said this sort of stuff is orders from GOD
 PC> and maybe to live and be a citizen of Israel one must prove their
 PC> Jewishness...but I laughed when The Jewish Black people were refused
 PC> the right to return "home" to their ancient country.   Lots of countrys
 PC> in history have come and gone.   King David's Israel..had it's day
 PC> but the power of Rome saw to that.  In the end the money and power
 PC> in the USA is going to end...  A United Europe is emerging, and
 PC> well that means no arms or money for Israel, and by then I hope
 PC> there is a lasting peace..or whoever is there is going to be killed
 PC> by the very angry Arabs from within and outside the country.
 PC> Ancient grudges will be evened...

To build the state as mighty as David'd kingdom you need to be God'd prophet
and anointed one. You have to have direct link with God, and in this case
you and several dosens people will be able to defeat enormous army. But if
somebody pretends to be a prophet he can plunge his own people into the
bottomless bog. And it is suddenly occured that, in reality, he is not able
to go on water or separates it.

 PC> I am happy just to live here in CANADA.   We were never as a nation
 PC> conquered by anyone.   We have never had an Empire or takenover
 PC> a country thus no revenge from anywhere as far as I see.   We
 PC> have supported the UN...we support an indepdent view of the
 PC> world...and besides, we only care about "1" thing...Ice Hockey.

 PC> I wonder if anyone in the world reads our postings Alexander.?

Some Russians may be. For example I searched for a place to practice my
English and had found in Russian Fidonet the only live echo for this
purpose. This one. I really want to improve my English. I have a dream to
translate some books from Russian to English even if I am just an amateur.
Learning the language is a quite captivating and useful thing. It is as an
artificial respiration for brains, when in the vicinity there are no other
tasks.

 PC> I hope and pray that what we have talked about, might get to
 PC> the right places, and something called "PAZ" breaks out all
 PC> over the world.

Who knows? Anyway progress is going on without us:)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/03/exclusive_curve.html


[...Amor omnia vincit]
Bye PETER!
Alexander
fido7.english-tutor 2007



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