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Text 10072, 89 rader
Skriven 2004-11-20 17:42:58 av Paul Sanders (3:633/104)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
Ärende: Science 1/2
===================
Hi Roy,

 RW>>> Sorry, you're incorrect in your assumption. Only the moderator knows
 RW>>> what the listing should be.

 PS>> If that was the case, why did Thom make changes to trhe science echo
 PS>> listing without asking the moderator (earl) ?

RW>He corrected the listing as per the Elist FAQ. The elisting was in error
RW>according to Vlist's very own words. Since the listing should show its
RW>current status, that was the right thing to do in light of the facts.
Actually Roy, Thom did *not* make changes to the elist of science echo
according to his FAQ.

 PS>>>> Thom could correct the listing, but for reasons known only to
 PS>>>> himself (he has been asked, but refuses to give a straight answer).

 RW>>> He did correct the listing by removing someone who bluntly told
 RW>>> everyone here that he wasn't the moderator of that echo.
But not in accordance with his own FAQ.

 PS>> Either Thom can make changes or he can't, which is it Roy ?

RW>Read the FAQ, then you'll have the answer to that question.
FAQ says he can make changes, but must first get in touch with the
moderator of the echo. He did not do that.

 RW>>> If that change is incorrect, it's up to the moderator to correct
 RW>>> it.

 PS>> And when the echolist does not reflect reality what then Roy ?

RW>Read the FAQ.
Thom is able to make changes, with restrictions.

 RW>>>>> That would be up to the elisted moderator, not you.

 PS>>>> It is up to Thom to correct the listing.

 RW>>> No, it's up to the echo moderator to correct it.
Then why has Thom made changes in the past without approval from the
moderator ?

 PS>> Then why has Thom made changes to the echolist in the past ?
RW>I don't know that he has made changes without input from the echo
RW>moderator. I guess you've got a spy-fly on the wall at Thom's house, eh?
Nope, he showed all right here in this echo.

 PS>> (fn_sysop also comes to mind)

RW>I believe he had no choice in that matter.
But he did make changes with your approval (you were the moderator at
te time)

RW> Ya'll hijacked the echo

(snip: from previous message)
RW> I repeat: you cannot hijack an echo that has an elisting. Unless
RW> you have a software program that's good at guessing passwords.
RW> Even then, you're shut out by the robot after so many attempts,
RW> so it's again safe in the hands of the echolist.  Not to mention
RW> that the robot sends a netmail to the elisted moderator informing
RW> him of the failed attempt at hijacking the listing.
(snip)

So Roy, if an echo cannot be hijacked, how did "Ya'll" manage to
hijack fn_sysop ?

RW> and inundated Thom with netmails stating it belongs to the sysops
RW> and not the moderator.
So Thom, without the approval of the elisted moderator, made changes
to fn_sysop.

RW> I noticed that you're happy that he did that for you, in spite
RW>of your distaste for the Elist and it's keeper.

Oh, do you have a 'fly-spy' on the wall here somewhere ?

RW>Why has Beejorn made Elist updates to that echo and neglected this one?

Ask Bjorn (perhaps he has a third party do the updating)

 cya later,

 Paul

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