Text 1119, 72 rader
Skriven 2004-10-22 16:55:01 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 1106 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
Ärende: FidoNews 21:38 [09/09]: Fidonews Information
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 >  MvdV> You'd be the only one to blame with your silly rule number 8.
 >  MvdV> Echomail participants in Z2 have a right to appeal moderator
 >  MvdV> decisions to the ZEC.

 > Your EP1 is not valid in Z1. Nor does the moderator of the
 > HAM echo recognize EP1.

Moderators are defined in EP1 and nowhere else. If you don't recognize EP1,
from where do you derive your authority to call yourself mderator?

 >  MvdV> You can't take that away from them by a "by posting
 >  MvdV> here you waive that right" rule.

 > The rule also states that if you cannot agree to the loss
 > of EP1 protection, don't post in the echo.

A rule that is null and void here according to the onky recognised document
that defines the rights and duties of partcipants in FidoNet echomail.

 >  MvdV> You rule number 8 is incompatible with distribution
 >  MvdV> of an echo in Z2.

 > Good, then there won't be any problem cutting off Z2.

There never was a problem with that. You might consider what your are cutting
off from what if you wree to attempt that. It could end up by you cutting
yourself off from most of th erest of the world.

 >  MvdV> If you do not want Z2 participants to appeal to the
 >  MvdV> ZEC, you should not have the echo distributed in Z2
 >  MvdV> in the first place.

 > I don't 'have' it distributed there, I 'allow' it to be
 > distributed there,

Result is the same.

 > since I'm a nice guy and don't mind the usual Amateur Op
 > from Z2. That's not to say that you're in that catagory.

Then why don;t you write into those silly rules of yours that only nice guys
may post?

 > >>  MvdV> Fact: I did not agree to abide by any of your rules.
 > >>  Mvdv> No matter what your rules say about automatic agreement.

 > >> Fact: By posting in the echo, you automatically agreed to
 > >> abide by the echo rules.

 > MvdV> No I did not. And you saying it again and again
 > Mvdv> won't make it so.

 > You denying it doesn't make it go away, either.

There is nothing to go away. There is no agremeent period.

 >  >> Next time you enter an echo and wish to cause hate and
 >  >> discontent among the users, if I were you, I'd read the
 >  >> rules before posting there.  It's the proper ettiquette
 >  >> when you trepass on someone elses' property.

 >  MvdV> Property? What property?

 > Read the rules.

At best that would tell me what your opinion on property is. I am not
interested in your opinion, I am interested in the facts.

Cheers, Michiel

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