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Text 13024, 57 rader
Skriven 2005-09-26 09:49:01 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: looters in NO
=====================
Hello Ross,

 >>> I said the fact that he sent over lewd videos of himself
 >>> helped establish the fact that he had intent to have
 >>> "relations" with what he thought to be a 14yo US female.

 MV>> Right. And so he was convicted for what the court thought was his
 MV>> *intent*.

 > Our laws differ from yours, yours differ from ours.

Point is, Menno Blom was convicted for his *intent*, not for something he
actually did. Now tell that to Frank Scheidt.

 > There are some crimes that can be prosecuted before there is a
 > victim, much less a innocent victim. Police routinely do drug
 > and prostitution stings and reverse ones, using undercover
 > officers posing as drug buyers, dealers, johns or prostitutes.

I know that. I also keep telling you that such methods are illegal in The
Netherlands and most other European countries.

It was a US policeman applying these law enforcement metheds outside his
jurisdiction on a citezen of another country while in that country that made me
write the article in the first place.

 > Up to the point that he arrived in Chicago and got arrested,
 > he was thinking "yummy 14yo girl". Now we have no idea what
 > the text was in the chats, but the lewd video's do indicate he
 > had in mind some sexual intent.

That still does not prove what his intent was at the moment he set foot on US
soil. he himself claimed he changed his mind during the flight. Now disprove
that.

 > Pedophilia is a crime over here Michiel, your protesting
 > CANNOT change that, and while the age of consent is much lower
 > in your country, it is not so low over here and adult males
 > preying on our children, especially over the internet is a
 > problem and if we can prevent some of it (ideally all of it)

In the menno Blom case, you preventing nothing. There was no girl and Menno
Blom would not have come to the US had he not been invited by that police
officer.

The crima was *fabricated* by the police and it all started by that police
officer breakijng *our* laws.

 >>> But Menno could have avoided all of this

Your police could have avoided it by not attempting to enforce their laws in
other countries.

Cheers, Michiel

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