Text 13286, 49 rader
Skriven 2005-09-27 11:03:03 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: Cell phone cost
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 >>    Based on statistics published each month in the STATS echo.

 MVDV>> Means nothing. The robot only counts messages that go
 MVDV>> through the system where it runs.

 >   Since that system takes a full backbone feed, I think it
 > means a lot more than guesses pulled out of your hair.

You surprise and disappoint me. I hadn't expected this kind of tunnel vision
from you. Surely - in face of what the nodelist tells us - you do not believe
that the Z1 backbone statistics are in any way representative for the whole of
FidoNet?

 MVDV>> There is lots of International echomail that does not pass there.

 >   Such as?

The three echos I moderatoe for starters. They are not on the Z1 backbone and
hence do not appear in those statistics.

 MVDV>> International Fidonet echomail is a lot bigger than what
 MVDV>> the statistics suggest. They just show the tip of the
 MVDV>> iceberg.

 >   Really -- then show some statistics that overwhelm those.
 > You are basing your claim on direct observation aren't you?
 > Present your evidence if you want to be believed.

No thanks, I am getting tired of doing legwork to correct your Z1 tunnel
vision. If you want to convince me that your statistics of the Z1 backbone are
representative for the entire FidoNet, you do the legwork. If not I will be
content if you continue to believe in your tunnel vision image.

 MVDV>> FidoNet is bigger than that....

 >   Certainly there are parts of fidonet not included in those
 > statistics. The reason they are not included is because they are
 > regional or local echos -- not international ones.  How big
 > they are can only be conjectured until someone produces some data.

Oh, c'mon. Have a look at the nodelist. The native Russian speaking sysops
overwhelm the others by a at least 10 to 1. You don't really believe that's all
nodelist stuffing or that participation per listed system is so low that this
ten to one majority means nothing?

Cheers, Michiel

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