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Skriven 2005-09-27 11:05:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
Ärende: looters in NO
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-=> Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Roy Witt <=-

 MvdV>>>> But surely the cop that framed Menno Blom knew that it is illegal
 MvdV>>>> in LA. And that cop "forgot" to tell him....
 
 >>> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

 MvdV>> In civilised countries however law enforcement officers inform the
 MvdV>> prospective offender that what he is about to do because of
 MvdV>> ignorance is against the law.
 
 > In this case, getting a pedophile off the streets to lure
 > other 14yo girls into illicit sex carries more weight.

 MVDV> Menno Blom is not a pedophile and he was not on your streets.

He didn't get much of a *chance* did he?  ... heh heh heh ...
 
 >>> If anyone framed Blom, he did it to himself.

 MvdV>> Yeah, blame the victim.
 
 > If I did that, I'd have to blame the 14yo girl.

 MVDV> There never was a 14 yo girl. Menno Blom was the victim of a set up.

 MvdV>> That is not how we do things in civilised countries. if someone is
 MvdV>> framed, it is the framer that is held responsible for that.
 
 > That's how it's done here too. But self incrimination is not
 > framing anyone.

 MVDV> Doesn't matter how it is done over there. Menno Blom was not in the US
 MVDV> when it took place.

 MvdV>> There is no law that mandates a police officer to provoke people
 MvdV>> into committing acts that they are unaware are against the law.
 
 > They didn't. Blom did all the provoking.

 MVDV> It was the pokice officer who took the initiative to pose as fourteen
 MVDV> year old girl.

 MvdV>> The LA police officer could simply have refrained from posing
 MvdV>> himself as a willing 14 yo to Blom.
 
 > He wasn't an LA police officer. He was a Cook County Deputy
 > Sherrif...Cook county is in Illinois.

 MVDV> Whatever.

So the fact that you're talking about a place two thousand miles 
from where the action actually took place is OK with you??  ... 
[sigh] ...
 
 > Blom could simply not have positioned himself into violating US law.

 MVDV> He did not violate US law as he was not on US territory.

 MVDV> Unless of course one takes the position that US law applies everywhere
 MVDV> and not just on US territory..
 
 >>> Blom did something he may have been ignorant of, but that's no excuse
 >>> in the eyes of the law.

 MvdV>> It is an extenuating circumstance though.
 
 > You just jumped on somebody's case here for being ignorant,
 > calling them stupid. Was that an extenuating circumstance too?

 MVDV> Yes, low intelligence is an extenuating circumstance.

I'll bet you *count* on that ... heh heh heh ...

... Beware of the opinion of someone without any facts.

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