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Skriven 2005-09-30 09:08:12 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Kommentar till text 13578 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
Ärende: Cell phone cost
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29 Sep 05 16:34, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Roy Witt:
CS> *** Quoting Roy Witt from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***
CS>> Sorry about that. Mom quit smoking when she was about my age. I'm
CS>> trying too but so far just managed to cut down to 'sensible' (bit
CS>> less than 1/2 pack a day when home, 1/3-1/4 when at sea).
RW>> You're so close, you could throw them away and spend a week or two
RW>> wit the urge to smoke, but just a little bit of willpower would get
RW>> you through that. I've done it that way, three times. My problem was
RW>> that
CS> Perhaps, but so far havent made it. I cut down alot though. Problem
CS> has been that Don also smokes so we both have to quit at the same
CS> time or it doesnt work.
That doesn't work either. One will lose the willpower to quit, which gives
the other person an excuse to pick them up again too. I quit, even though
Nancy continued to smoke. She's sometimes a chain smoker and that made it
tough on me, but I perseveered.
CS>> Had a lulu in Norfolk. Fellow was a dermatologist. Told me to cut
CS>> all fats to 10% and no chocolate before he knew why I was there
CS>> (contact dermatitis from a spilled chemical down my boot that wet my
CS>> sock and I couldnt change for 45 mins, made a nasty rash but the
CS>> stuff was not carcenigenic, just caustic).
RW>> Ewwww. I know how that feels. I spilled some gasoline on myself and
RW>> ha to wear my Levi's for another hour before I could get home. Not
RW>> good o the genitals...I finally stripped in a public rest room and
RW>> only wore shorts home.
CS> Heheh well, I couldnt doff the safety boots. Was in an area where
CS> they were pretty important (Clearing glass after a storm).
Not good.
CS>> Shipboard life is exciting but not always so safe...
RW>> Like a friend of mine who got caught up in the anchor chain, broke
RW>> his in umpteen pieces and got a medical discharge. All before he was
RW>> 20yo.
CS> Ouch. Yes, happens. Rare but it does happen.
The way he drank after he got out tells me that he might have been a
little inebriated when that happened to him.
CS>>> He didnt pay that even. Took a court order when I was 10 to get
CS>>> the payments started. Have a classic letter from 'Gov Reagan' that
CS>>> we had to move to California to actually get the money and no
RW>> Oh yes. In the 60s, under Reagan, they DA had a collection program
RW>> goi for those who needed help in collecting child support. Those who
RW>> becam subject to the DA getting involved, paid directly to the DA's
RW>> office. They kept books on it. Unless someone who was in arears
RW>> moved to a non-extradition compact state, they paid up or went to
RW>> jail.
CS> Possibly Florida was a non-extradition state.
As was Texas. But they all eventually agreed to cooperate with each other
in enforcing child support. That would save the taxpayers a lot of money
by keeping divorce women with children off the welfare rolls.
CS> I just know trhe money never came, or only came now and again. I do
CS> remember later it was 'garnisheed from his paycheck' but somethow the
CS> stae was screwing up and the money never got to us. That was in the
CS> later years.
That's California's method of enforcement. When the support payer is
working, they'll attach his wages. When he's not, they can't do anything
but threaten him with jail time. Jail time doesn't do any good, as there
is no support payments being made while incarcerated. Making him pay up
after is a hardship which makes them tend not to work, at least above the
table.
CS>> due to muscular damage. It didnt even save me from hard labor as
CS>> they waited until after I was in that for 24 freakin' screamin'
CS>> hours (no pain killer, I wasnt dialating right and that would have
CS>> slowed it).
RW>> Having been slashed from back to front, I know how you feel. But,
RW>> excercise is what keeps me from getting stiff like that. It's when I
RW>> s around and do nothing that those muscles tighten up. Then I can
RW>> feel i
CS> I dont have stiffness really, just zones of numb lack of feeling
CS> along the belly scar (Inch or so below) and a lack of abdominal
CS> muscle strenght that isnt real bad, but makes me nominal for situps
CS> compared to before.
You've seen the 'Jaws of Life' that they use to extract people from
wrecked autos, etc.. They use something similar to that to spread out your
ribs when they do a major kidney operation. By major I mean, they have to
open you up to get it out and the arthrascopic method isn't an option. The
ribs either side of that incision are further apart than all the rest. And
it's been 2 1/2 years now.
CS> I can do 40 and with lots of work, get that up to 50, but no more. I
CS> used to be able to do 70-80 without effort.
Good! I can do only 20 or 25 max...
CS> The 40 is within military PRT requirements (low end, but it passes
CS> fine) so it's not a problem. I also have a bit of a 'mummy tummy'
CS> which isnt weight driven but lack of muscular control. It's not a
CS> bad one, just always there no matter what I do.
That also comes with age. I used to have Roman Armor looking stomach
muscles, now I have one of those 'mummy tummys' too.
CS>> back which prevented dialation, allowed her to survive. Her head
CS>> never entered the birth canal when she went into total alarm status
CS>> but they moved fast and she was ok though more than a bit blue.
RW>> Damned lucky that they figured out your problem. I had a brother who
RW>> didn't make it because of that umbilical cord and a nephew who is so
RW>> brain damaged from that cord problem, he's like a vegetable.
CS> Sorry to hear that. Yes, we were lucky. Had the military not been
CS> on a kick to save money, it would have been identified with ultra
CS> sound, but I was 34 and they started a kick to not do them under age
CS> 35 unless there were previous records of problems or indications of
CS> one. I had a classic almost perfect pregnancy. i didnt even get
CS> 'morning sick' once during the whole time. The only problem I had
CS> was I gained too much weight (80 lbs!) as my metabolism slipped into
CS> a lower than normal for me gear. I came back to work only 4lbs
CS> higher than my pre-pregnancy weight though so it was not a big issue.
Wow, that's a lot of weight to gain and then lose right away.
CS> Now, they are back to doing an ultrasound on all at 4 weeks before
CS> due date (or was it 3?) as you can catch things like this I gather?
Yes, they can. But, what can they do about it? Just look at the ultra
sound images?
CS>> before that so his passing was more of a blessing when it came. Mom
CS>> for all her foibles, did a good job of raising 3 kids alone in the
CS>> 60's and 70's. I'm the least successful of the 3 if you can imagine
CS>> that!
RW>> No, I can't imagine that at all. But, how do you measure success?
RW>> Soun like you've got a nice family and you like what you do for a
RW>> career. A long as you're happy with all that, then you're a success.
CS> Smile, I am a success. I only mention me as the lesser of the 3, as
CS> the other 2 have gone further up the corporate ladders than I ever
CS> will. My Sister was an insurance executive who covered 6 states
CS> (California was one of them) with thousands of folks working under
CS> her. I forget the exact company now as she became a home makers when
CS> her husband became Assistant CEO (I think that is his title). My
CS> brother is an SES-1 (Government civilian, equal to a Rear Admiral
CS> lower half, O-7). Does super IT related things.
Sounds like they're successful too. But, just having a job like your
sisters can take a toll on your life. Nancy's younger sister was a VP of
an insurance company in SD. She quit that job after she married again and
moved to Orange county. When she figured out that the new hubby didn't
have an income that they could live on as comfortably as before, she went
out and got another job, this time as a VP for Kia of Korea, based in LA.
It's an income, but she's not happy with the job.
RW>>> Well, you havn't convinced me. :o)
CS>> Hehe then be unconvinced Roy. I've even *started* flamers! Remember
CS>> that long ago RC12? I called him an asshole in IRC which started it
CS>> all. He never forgave and never forgot. He's the one who deleted
CS>> Tim Strike (TG author) just after he sent out the y2K fix. I mean,
CS>> same week.... Said he was a dead node. I told him that was wrong
CS>> and the node was alive, and he said no, he was dead. So I pointed
CS>> him to the Y2K fix, and he insisted the node was gone, so I called
CS>> him an asshole in the TG IRC chat area. His reaction to this was so
CS>> pervasive, it caused the R12 nodes to not have a proper
CS>> representation in the Z1 RCC events that lead to the election of
CS>> Janis. R12 nodes never did catch on (most didnt, a few did). The
CS>> style of the vote literally changed due to the r12C not replying to
CS>> repeated requests for feedback.
RW>> I remember. LDD kept me informed about, what was his name, Mike
RW>> something.. Never heard about your problem with him though.
RW>> Interestin
CS> Heheh it was the basis for those horrible flamers in the FN-SYSOP
CS> echo against me from 2000-on for a goodly bit. As to LDD, I always
CS> got along with her and Ruth Argust quite well. Ruth would flame me
CS> in one message then we'd be chatting up a storm about carpal tunnel
CS> or other stuff in the next message which wierded some folks out. I
CS> miss her and hope she is well.
LDD, as you know, disappeared from earth after Fidonet. No one has heard
from or about her since. Ruth used to check in Dale's BBS or download her
mail, but Dale said the other day that he hadn't heard from her in quite a
while now. Hopefully she and Gerry are doing well.
Roy
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