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Skriven 2005-10-01 12:54:06 av Dan Ceppa (1:138/666.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt
Ärende: looting in NO.
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On 30 Sep 05  06:37:24, Roy Witt got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: looting in NO.

 RW> Notice the lack of structural integrety.

Notice that the towers did stand up to the impact.  It was the 
resultant fires that did it all in.  

 
 DC>> Though the impact of the jets did cause damage, the overall
 DC>> structures held.
 RW>> Yes, but it was inevitable that they'd come down.
 DC> Not if the fires could have been contained.

 RW> Doubtful that the lack of fire would stopped the inevitable. Those
 RW> towers were damaged too much.

The still held until the support structure was weakened by the fires.  


 RW>> I'd say whoever planned that sequence of events knew what he was
 RW>> doing.
 
 DC> What's interesting is that the two planes took slightly different
 DC> final attack paths on the towers.

 RW> Of course, that couldn't have been due to the lack of skill by either
 RW> terrorist pilot.

Perhaps.  But, I tend to doubt it.  I think that 2 different strategies 
where involved as I mention below.  


 DC> I think that they were directed to do so ahead of time.  One went
 DC> straight in at the center core and the other one went off at a bit of
 DC> an angle.  The second hit was also at a much lower floor.  But, both
 DC> planes had their wings at angles to hit as many floors as possible.
 DC> I do think that the first plane was intended to actually knock over
 DC> the building on its impact.  When that did not occur, the second
 DC> plane's objective was to cause a big as fire as possible.

 RW> Isn't Osama Bin Laden a structual engineer? Such a person would know
 RW> the intracacies of such a building and would have known that one
 RW> airplane wouldn't knock down those towers.

Yes, he is.  But he did not have enough info as to know for sure 
that it could or couldn't have occured.  The "experiment" was done 
in real time.  That's why I think that the two crashes took 
slightly different angles and altitudes.  


 RW>> won't stop the annealing process in a fire of such magnatude as was
 RW>> in the
 
 DC> Again, it was the resultant fires started after the jet fuel burned
 DC> away that was the real problem.  The problem with fire was something
 DC> that couldn't have been modeled at the time the structures were
 DC> built.  Photos taken shortly after the strikes clearly show that
 DC> there was bare steel that used to be covered with retardant. That
 DC> was before the major fires were ignited.

 RW> I reiterate, retardant isn't going to stop the inevitable. All it will
 RW> do is slow down the process of annealing those beams and girders.

Giving, perhaps, enough time to quench those fires.  

Notice that the retardant is blown away on the initial impacts.  Notice 
also that the center core is struck head on by the first attack.  That 
destroys virtually all possibility of those above the impact zone from 
an escape route.  

The engineer of the operation did his homework.  The first of which 
is that the impacts were far above normal landing/takeoff speeds 
of the "missiles".  The second of them is what was a well-educated 
guess as how to set the fires that trully caused the final collapse.  


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