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Text 14909, 84 rader
Skriven 2005-10-18 12:51:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 14784 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: looters in NO
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 MvdV>> So either the cars were not registered in California when the
 MvdV>> pictures for the web side were taken or you took the front plates
 MvdV>> off for the occasion of the picture. I suppose that is legal if it
 MvdV>> happens on private property.

 > I didn't count those in the 3rd gen gallery, but of the 20 Camaros in the
 > 4th gen gallery, 12 of them don't have a front plate, including mine.

I too noticed that many front plates were missing, so hence my enquiry about
the requirement.

 > The rest I either couldn't tell or they had a plate. Not only are
 > the plates missing, but those who don't have them, drive them on public
 > roads without any hassle from the police.

Oh?

I don not know of any country in Europe where front plates are not required.
Two approved plates are the norm. The only exceptions are Italy and Switserland
that still allow "mini' plates in front. (Only for older vehicles AFAIK)  But
something must be there.

One does not get away with no front plates. Well, you may get away with a "it
was there this morning, must have just lost it", but of course that won't fly
if there are no marks to show there ever was a plate.  I am not even sure you
could drive your Texas registered Camaro here without a front plate. I have
never seen a US vehicle without front plates hesre. Then again vehicles with US
plates are rare anywy here.

How about nationality plates? Do you need the white oval with the letters USA
in black when you cross into Mexico or Canada?

Over here the white oval was compulsory when leaving one's own country. With
the new plates with the blue rectangle on the left with the EU circle of stars
and the nationality on the bottom it is no longer required within the EU.

 > Of course, if a LEO wishes to include that violation when he's wri-
 > ting a ticket for something worthwhile to write up, he'll do that.

I wonder why you choose to give him such an easy excuse. Isn't it so that a cop
needs "cause" to pull you over and challenge you? Is a missing front plate not
the perfect excuse?

 > Those who've been written are those who squeal tires on the
 > pavement, drive faster than the speed limit, drive
 > recklessly, etc. Oh, and when I got stopped for 105 in a 65,
 > the pig, errrr, officer never even bothered to look at the front
 > of the car.

Odd. I thought this "policy of tolerance" was typically Dutch...

 >>>>> Texas did. It has a Texas plate on the rear

 MvdV>>>> Not visible unfortunately.

 > It is in the other photos. Texas plate, 705 FKN -

Saw. it.

BTW, zflag12.jpg shows a much better picture of the person you claim is you....

 > Texas just passed a new law that eliminates the front plate as
 > of November 1st...

It isn't Nov 1st yet. So technically you are still inviolation...

 > that means when you go to register your car from out of state
 > or a new car, you'll only be issued on plate.

Over here, the state does not issue the plates. After you have the
registration, you can go to an approved plate manufaturer and you can buy two
plates for a car and one for a motor cycle.

If you lose a plate or if it is stolen, you can not just buy a new one. You
have to rerigister and you get plates with a marker showing they are
replacements. That costs money and it is hassle.

As a result plates are usually not just screwed on any more. Pop nails, or
whatever you call them is the popular way of fastening.

Cheers, Michiel

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