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Skriven 2005-11-15 10:32:27 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 16177 av Peter Knapper (3:772/1.0)
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14 Nov 05 21:00, Peter Knapper wrote to Roy Witt:

 PK> Hi Roy,

 PK>> So it doesn't concern you that a USA intelligence community is
 PK>> clearly displaying such a level of NON-intelligence, but more a
 PK>> "we'll go along for the ride" type approach?

 RW>> Do you think NZ or anyone else doesn't use the same sources?

 PK> As a tiny country we have more of a need to receive input from
 PK> whatever source we can get, whereas the US has generally indicated
 PK> that it prefers its own sources to that of others. I just found your
 PK> persepctive... interesting...

I see. Intelligence in the information age is shared among many allies
throughout the world. By intelligence, I mean information that is oft
times privy to such agencies as the CIA. It's analyzed by them and then
it's given to the Prez with their recommendation as to it's legitimacy.
This is where the WMD information came from and I presume that it was
gathered from various other information sources around the world.

 RW>> It was a well known fact that Iraq had intentions to build WMDs
 RW>> before the 91 war and ten years of weapons inspectors didn't thwart
 RW>> that intent.

 PK> Intentions do not always result in actions, and it seems to me the
 PK> jury is still trying to prove the action.

Yeup. If you listened to SH, he was saying that there were no WMDs in his
country. But then, we did find evidence of chemical labs on wheels after
the invasion. WMDs aren't just nuclear weapons, they could be chemical or
biological weapons too. And Iraq was known to have used those before 1991.

 RW>> Intellgence agencies around the world were in agreement on this. I
 RW>> don't think it's such a bad idea to rely on your allies.

 PK> The interesting part though is that it wasn't until those planes
 PK> struck their targets that the "post 9/11" events became such a
 PK> leading edge for the US response.

That would be the difference between leaders. Clinton knew of such things
and the WTC was bombed during his term as President. There was also the
incident where a big hole was blown into the side of a US vessel in an
arab port, which Clinton also did nothing about it.

 PK>> I am always wary about some of the news reporting agencies and how
 PK>> they "treat" the information before its released, but do you feel
 PK>> the US public are being fed good info about the entire situation?

 RW>> Nope. I gather information from more than one reporting agency.
 RW>> Those who prove to be unreliable or biased in their reporting are
 RW>> left out in the cold at my house. I eliminated CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC
 RW>> and their affiliate cable stations from viewing and watch Fox News,
 RW>> BBC and a couple of other uropeon news reports.

 PK> Interesting, the BBC for all their faults still seem to remain a top
 PK> contendor in the "believe it or not" stakes...........;-)

Yeup. They have their faults, but they're still believable compared to the
others I mentioned. And I can even swallow their critiques of the US at
times.


Roy
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