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Skriven 2004-11-08 10:01:50 av Thom LaCosta (1:261/1352.0)
   Kommentar till text 1630 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Science 1/2
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Michiel van der Vlist wrote in a message to Dale Shipp:

 >  >   Which is exactly what I said -- you are a moderator of the echo.

 >  MVDV> CO-moderator.

 >    You finally agree.  Good.

 MvdV> I don't think so. See my next message addressed to all. perhaps
 MvdV> that will clear it up.


I received that message, and it did not show you getting a copy, so I can only
assume that it was a bcc or that Earl simply forwarded a copy to you.

You and Earl seem to misunderstand who can update an echolisting.  Had either
of you read the Echolist FaQ, which is published each month, you would have a
better understanding.

The following information should be of assistance in clearing up your
misunderstanding of who can update an echolisting.


Area : Sent Mail

Date : Sun Nov 07, 18:18                                               pvt snt 
From : Thom LaCosta                                           1:261/1352
To   : IREX                                                   1:261/1501
Subj : MOD UPD                                                               
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<snip>
 ET> My call on this is that I am the moderator of the Science Echo.  I
 ET> invited  Michiel to be a co-moderator with certain defined duties. 
 ET> Unfortunately, it  does not appear that there is a real distinction
 ET> between a moderator and a  co-moderator.  

Right....Co-Moderators are moderators...that's what the Co means.

 ET> We both need the same
 ET> password to do anything with the  listing.  If it were possible to
 ET> have two different roles defined or to  allow someone to be
 ET> appointed to take over the listing if the moderator  cannot be
 ET> contacted - with his own password to show he has permission - this 
 ET> would solve these problems.  In the meantime, any disagreement
 ET> between  others is just that - between them.  I do not wish to be
 ET> drug into any  disagreements and I do not wish the state of the
 ET> Echo listing to be changed  because of disagreements of which I am
 ET> not a part.  Therefore, because I  have no choice due to the way
 ET> the echo listing works.  Michiel must know the  listing password
 ET> and must be listed as a moderator to perform his duties in  the
 ET> Echo.

No...you can officially request that the Echolist recognize an update from a
third party, and specifiy that third party.  They do NOT have to be a moderator
IF you grant permission and notify me of same.

It's all spelled out in the echolist FAQ.  See the section THIRD PARY UPDATES.

Of course, on the other hand, if you sent in an update every 30 days, it's
highly unlikely that the listing would ever expire(it's good for 180 days
without an update).

I can't tell you who you name as a moderator, I can't force you to make your
own
updates, but I will not allow a listing to be inaccurate. If you want to name
someone as moderator then they can not disavow being the moderator...

<,/snip>

                                  ECHOLIST
                        The International Echolist FAQ

01 NOVEMBER 2004                                            ELFAQ411.TXT
|| Notes new or modified information

<snip>

THIRD PARTY UPDATES
    Moderators wishing to use the service of third parties to submit
    MOD UPD, MOD DEL and MOD RULE messages must notify the Echolist
    Keeper of their intention to use third parties.  The Echolist
    Keeper may hold update messages from third parties if there is
    no confirmation message from the moderator.
    Third party submissions MUST be from the address of the updater.

IDENTIFICATION OF MODERATOR
    All moderator entries in the Echolist database MUST include, as a
    minimum, the name of the moderator and either a Fido Style address
    and/or an email address.  The moderator name can be a person's
    name, or in "official" echoes, the position name of the moderator
    (examples: Echolist Keeper, RC13).

    Terms such as Trustee, Custodian, Emeritus, etc. are not proper
    names, and therefore can not be listed in the moderator dataline.
    These descriptions may be used in a DESC line.


MODIFICATIONS OF LISTINGS BY ECHOLIST KEEPER
    The Echolist Keeper reserves the right to modify information in
    the Echolist database if in the opinion of the Echolist Keeper,
    the information is inaccurate, in question, or not in concert
    with the published Echolist Documents.
</snip>




cya,
thom
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