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Skriven 2005-11-26 11:17:03 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
     Kommentar till en text av FRANK SCHEIDT
Ärende: Re: Wars
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> WD> There's only one country in the world which had a quite successful
> WD> TV-show about its leadership. The TV-show was called "That's my
> Bush"
 
> Yeah, so "successful" it was located on a tiny (at that time) TV
> channel, The Comedy Channel.
 
So you saw/knew about it ... it was a smash-hit, just too high production-cost
per unit. The moment you cannot laugh with your leadership is a sad time ... we
enjoy our government and royal household being ridiculed quite often.
 
> WD> The most vocal person about GWB is an American: Michael Moore!
 
> Most of his statements against the US have been thoroughly
> discredited.
 
You wish!
 
> One example is Gerald Ford who was depicted as a hopelessly
> clumsy individual, based on one incident -- he stumbled one
> time when getting out of an airplane.  The fact was he was a
> good athlete in college ... to the "news"media, however, he was a
> very clumsy person.
 
There exist images of Ford falling at least three times from airplane stairs.
 
> Dan Quayle was pilloried mercilessly for his potato/potatoe
> spelling as though that was extremely important.  Then he
> was ridiculed for allegedly saying he wished he spoke Latin
> so he could converse with the Latin Americans -- not too
> long after *that* came out a reporter *admitted* she had
> made it up on a dull day ... and so it goes.
 
And that journalist was eventually uncovered to be a pro-Republican writer and
her statement false. So it actaully happened ... video images exist with quayle
saying all these stupid things, they're just not to be found in US
film/video-vaults.
 
> WD> I suppose you haven't heard that former dictator Pinochet from
> WD> Argentina is only sued in one country worldwide for his crimes
> WD> against humanity ... Belgium ... and that all others, including the
> WD> mightiest country on earth, turn a blind eye. Of course, it's a rarely
> WD> overlooked footnote in world history how Pinochet rose to power.
 
> When the US doesn't do something with international consequences
> it's in our own interest.  What might seem simple can have large
> political consequences.  Pinochet is an old man, almost dead.
> Let him alone.
 
So you are unware he was military and monetary helped by the CIA to overthrow
the democratic elected regime of Allende? That Pinochet murdered Allende and
spread a reign of terror with thousands of people murdered and/or dissappeared?
Please go on a Thursday the 'Playa de Mayos' in Argentina's Buenos Aires to see
the weekly protest by the so-called 'Silly Mothers' demanding the return of or
news about their dissappeared sons. Go to www.madres.org.
 
Thank you USA.
 
> The number of casualties of the French and English *naturally*
> will exceed those of the American dead since France and England
> were involved in the dreaded "trench-warfare" for *years*, I
> believe it was Marshal Haig who insisted on the pointless charge
> and counter-charge over "No Man's Land" resulted in tremendous
> casualties.  When the Americans entered WWI General Pershing
> *refused* to get stuck in that mess.  For that reason and because
> we were in the war for a far shorter time period.
 
What rubbish .... during the same period of time and in the same general area
we record 368 US graves versus about 200,000 British and 43 US MIA's against
37,000 British MIA's.
 
It does not mean the US troops acted cowardlike but is quite simply explained
because of their smaller numbers. They were there and they made a contribution.
"Winning that war by the US" however is a well-embedded hoax of later times
mainly inspired by Hollywood-productions on WW2 creating the same false
impression about WW2-history.
 
> I think I had a good idea as to what was going on ... I read all
> the newspapers at the time and considered my own personal
> experiences to be trivial though they certainly helped ...
 
No-one was well informed other than the undeniable headlines. Newspapers, on
either side, printed what they were told by authorities to print, that's called
propaganda.
 
> Certainly the notorious "Non-Aggression Pact of 1939" could be
> considered a "peace-treaty", but I was thinking of one which
> might have involved a Russian surrender in 1941 and later.
 
Stalin surrendering? ;-)
 
> Supplies "lent" to the British, French and Russians were *always*
> referred to as "Lend-Lease".  The only cash involved was
> *American* cash.
 
I was talking about "gold", not "cash". Please look-up the fate of HMS
Edinburgh which was topredoed April 29th 1942 with a cargo of 5 tons of gold
from Russia "as payment for war war equipment".
 
It has been reported in "Time", look at:
 
  http://www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23 57,921064,00.html
 
or try:
 
  http://www.world-war.co.uk/index.php3
 
  go to "stories" then "stories1" and select "edinburgh"
 
Russia "bought" the goods ... nothing "lend lease" ...
 
> Without US help I don't think there's any *doubt* that Hitler
> would have won!
 
You are incredible:
 
* Nazi Germany was short of mineral resources (uranium, oil, coal, iron ore)
* The German Navy had virtually been annihilated by the Royal Navy
* The Luftwaffe had virtually been annihilated by the Royal Air Force...
* Whole Nazi-divisions had been destroyed by the Russians
* Zhukov had already annihilated Paulus' 6th army in Stalingrad in
  Jan.1943 and Nazi Germany had already lost the war on the eastern front by
  that time. The Russians fought with Russian tanks, Russian weapons, Russian
  callibers, Russian planes, Russian food and Russian oil.
 
I can't believe you dare claim being informed about WW2-events.
 
> Remember it took the Nazis only from June 1941 to December 1941
> to advance from the Russian border to the gates of Moscow!
 
It took the Japanese less than a day to dissable the US Pacific fleet in Pearl
Harbour. So what? The Japanese only awakened the American giant and the Nazis
only awakened the Russian bear. Once both these countries' war economies were
in full swing it was a done deal.
 
I've said it before and I will repeat ... you cannot beat the US nor Russia in
a conventional war.
 
> WD> In some of the above Cemeteries, many of the local people
> WD> have adopted a grave of a soldier who is unknown to them,
> WD> but he is "their adopted son," in thanks and honor for
> WD> his sacrifice in giving them their Liberty and Freedom in
> WD> 1944-5. It is just amazing that these people still give
> WD> thanks and pay tribute to their heroes after all these 56 years!
 
> That is really a *touching* tribute!  That clashes with what has
> been said here that the American soldiers were hated throughout
> Europe.   My brother was in the 101st Airborne.  Ten years after
> the "Battle of the Bulge" the people of Belgium offered all
> American veterans of that battle paid transportation to
> celebrate the tenth anniversary (I believe it was the tenth).
 
We nearly go every year during the Christmas period to Bastogne. It's an
impressive area on the high-plateau there when it freezes and the cold wind
blows. Difficult to imagine what those troops went through during all those
weeks of cold, bitter cold.
 
There are many memorials but every year there is also an American ceremony at
the monument of Mardasson just outside Bastogne, it is at the crossroads of the
area occuped by McAuliffe's troops in Dec.1944. Built in the shape of a giant
star.
 
I have a bunch of my own photographs on hard disc here of the place in winter.
If you care to see them I could put them on-line on a page somewhere. Just let
me know if you're interested.
 
Take care,
 
 \%/@rd

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