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Skriven 2005-12-10 04:54:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
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That is the only way it would make sense in discussing the 
decision-making to drop the bomb back in 1945!
 
 > I don't think so.  I've long believed we should make decisions
 > based on what we *know*,

 MVDV> Of course, there is no other choice.

Many people make decisions on pure guesswork.
 
 > take action then not look back.

 MVDV> One can not learn from mistakes if one never looks back. To learn from
 MVDV> mistakes one should look back and *admit* when a decision was a mistake
 MVDV> in hindsight. 

OK ... no argument there ... the bombing decision, of course, was 
a wise and humane one -- even considering it sixty years later.  
The only thing that bothers me is that August 5-7 isn't 
considered a national holiday in celebration of the act which 
ended the hostilities in the Pacific.

 > That's obviously what Harry Truman did.

 MVDV> And if you were honest you would admit that in hindsight the decision
 MVDV> was wrong.

I *am* honest.  The decision was *right*.  It's only your 
anti-American feelings which lead you to such a strange 
conclusion.  If you had lived during 1945 as a member of the 
American military about to be shipped to the South Pacific (as 
*I* was) you'd think differently.  If you had read -- at the 
time -- about the suicidal resistance put up by the Japanese 
soldiers when we invaded Okinawa you'd think differently.  
However your anti-American bias won't permit you to *think* 
that way.

 MVDV>>> Killing a lot of people to terrorise is the mark of the terrorist.
 >
 >> True ... so?

 MVDV>> That is what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaka. By today's
 MVDV>> standard it was an act of terrorism.
 
 > If that's the case, we certainly need to adjust those strange
 > "standards" ...

 MVDV> If you amend to standards to exclude Hiroshima and Nagasake it would
 MVDV> also 9/11 as an act of terrorism.

But 9/11 was *clearly* an act of terrorism.  We were at peace 
with the world, especially with Saudi Arabia who contributed 
fifteen of the terrorists.  That's quite different from the 
situation in 1945 prior to dropping the atomic bombs!

BTW, in a different vein.  I checked out your web site and found 
it quite interesting.  I was surprised to see it written in Dutch 
though I certainly shouldn't have been -- after all that's your 
language.  Even in Dutch, though, most of the meanings could be 
deciphered.  There are some similarities between Dutch and German 
which helps.  

... Firings will continue until morale improves

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