Text 1882, 105 rader
Skriven 2004-11-16 10:00:55 av Jack Yates (1:3613/1275)
   Kommentar till text 1841 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Science 1/2
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 >> I have no interest in the SCIENCE echo, don't bother to
 >> bring that up.

 MV> I see. You accuse me of walking a one way street, but when I come up
 MV> with a counter example you are not interested....

Nope, just keeping you focused..

 >>MV> if you pose as such.

 >> O but I am, you just do not choose to recognize me.

 MV> No, you are not. The moderator of this echo is Björn Felten. He became
 MV> the moderator when the previous moderator Frank vest handed it over to
 MV> him.

...and he dropped the listing, and so the job as well.  I picked up the listing
and got the job, too.

 >>MV> No and I won't. any attempts from your side to make me cease
 >>MV> will be counter productive. You are not the moderator.

 >> Denial...etc.

 MV> It is you who are in denial.

Uh-huh.  I'm just sitting here watching these little vignettes of life pass by
and enjoying it.

 >> What I *would like* is cooperation among the zones; what I
 >> *get* is refusals from you.

 MV> And as long as you keep claiming moderatorship of this echo that is
 MV> what you wil get from me.

I expected no less of you.

 >> There would have been no reason for this had the Fidonews
 >> Editor relisted the echo in the echolist.

 MV> There would have been no need for this of you had respected the choice
 MV> of a Z2 moderator to not make use of the services of the echolist.

I don't care what he doesn't do, that's his business.  By not doing what he
didn't do, he made it possible for me to do what I did.


 >> So you say; however, all the previous editors maintained
 >> the echolist listing

 MV> So? IIRC this is the first time that there is a Z2 Fidonews editor.

I really don't care where the editor lives, so there is not, in my mind, a
cause for an exception to be made.

 >> Perhaps if you ceased, the rest of us could enjoy the echo?

 MV> No way. I *may* consider it if you drop your claim of moderator of
 MV> this echo. As long as you keep claiming you are the moderator of this
 MV> echo you will meet with my defiant side.

<shrug>


 >>>> The echolist is not exclusive to Fidonet and is not a part
 >>>> of Fidonet; as such cannot be "governed" by Fidonet.

 >>MV> Right. It is not part of FidoNet. So why should I /as a user of
 >>MV> this echo/ consider it authoritative as to who the moderator is?

 >> Of course you don't, but that's because I have permitted
 >> you to continue posting in my echo.

 MV> It is not up to you to give or deny me permission to post in this
 MV> echo. It is not your echo.

It is, nd it is, but how I do it or or don't do it is up to me.


 >> If I told you to take a week to cool off, you would doubtless not
 >> do so and redouble your postings and I know this.

 MV> Or I may remain silent for TWO weeks just to prove you'r wrong. Point
 MV> is that you have no power over me and until Björn Felten - the
 MV> moderator of this echo - asks me to do otherwise, I will do as I
 MV> dammed well please.

I have no grief with Björn Felten moderating the echo, I expected him to do so.
 As far as you doing what you please, I wouldn't have it any other way.


 >>MV> You have no right to attempt to make others do the same.

 >> You are in no position to tell me what rights I have; I
 >> have every right to request that others do the same; I'm
 >> the moderator.

 MV> No, you are not.

Again, your opinion, which matters most to you.


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