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     Kommentar till en text av MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
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-=> Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Roy Witt <=-

 MvdV>> The greatest number of nuclear bombs is under the control of the US
 MvdV>> and contrary to Iran the US has sofisticated means of delivering
 MvdV>> them. regarding nuclear war, the US is the greatest threat.
 
 > Fortunately for you and the rest of the world, the US has
 > the restraint to not use them.

 MVDV> They used it twice. That is two times more than anyone else.

Yes, but remember *we* used them responsibly!
 
 >>> Like Saddam, they'll use them when it suits their agenda.

 MvdV>> Like Saddam? When did he use a nuclear weapon?
 
 > See WMDs,

 MVDV> We werre talking nukes, not WMD's in general.
 
 > as in seren (sp) gas, used on his own people, Kurds
 > and Iranians.

 MVDV> It still has to be proven that it was Saadam who gassed the Kurds. It
 MVDV> could have been Iran. Well I guess we will know what Saddam's judges
 MVDV> have to say about it soon enough.
 
 > No restraint shown in his actions.

 MVDV> And the USA used Agbet Orange and other chemical weapons in
 MVDV> Vietnam. No restraint there either.

Agent Orange was a defoliant, not really a "weapon of war".  No 
restraint was called for.
 
 >>> Israel has shown restraint in many different situations where
 >>> the use of 'the bomb' might have been justified.

 MvdV>> Israel show very little restraint when it comes to
 MvdV>> moderating responses.
 
 > Whoosh! That point went right over your head. Had they no
 > restraint, they could very well have used whatever weapons
 > they had in their arsenal to retaliate for those scuds.

 MVDV> That would have seriously pissed off the USA. It probably would have
 MVDV> been the end of unconditional USAian support. They held back out of
 MVDV> fear of losing that. Not because they are such gentle people.

You've got *that* right!

 MvdV>> For every Israeli killed in an attack, they kill 10
 MvdV>> Palestinians in retaliation. Not what I say "showing restraint"
 
 > I'd say that they use a lot of restraint. They could just as
 > well bomb the palestinians to oblivion.

 MVDV> Not without seriously endangering themselves.
 
 > I'll bet the thought of ending the Palestinian plight once
 > and for all has passed through their minds a few times.

 MVDV> And they didn't because they knew even they could not do that withouit
 MVDV> signing their own death warrant as well.

Also true ...
 
 >>> Like the time that Saddam Husien sent missles into Israel when
 >>> the Israeli were minding their own business during the Gulf war.

 MvdV>> Those scuds were mere pin pricks.
 
 > Still an attack on the soveriegn state of Israel, who had
 > nothing to do with the Gulf war.

 MVDV> They were an alley of the US. when one of your alleys attack, you can
 MVDV> expect to be firad at as well.

Probably true, but somewhat shaky ...
 
 > But the Saudi' did, why weren't they bombed more than once or twice?

 MVDV> Out of range?

Not so.  Saudi Arabia and Iraq have a common border.

 MvdV>> And so the nuclear powers are giving the wrong signal.
 
 > Right now, it's the nuclear wannabe powers who are giving off
 > the wrong signals. It'll be they who will start a nuclear war...

 MvdV>> That nuclear weapons are essential for surviving in a hostile
 MvdV>> environment.
 
 > That may be what they think, but it isn't so.

 MVDV> Then why does the USA not dismantle theirs?

Ha!  Such a question ...

... "It's comin' apart, Lad!" ÄÄ Scotty

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