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Skriven 2005-12-24 14:27:22 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel van der Vlist
Ärende: Re: Editorial
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Although the press is still very negative, things are improving.  During the 
time I've spent in Iraq, I've talked to shop keepers, dress makers, 
children, adults, old people, each have their own story.  There were some 
who were quite comfortable with Saddam in power, but they were always of 
that "class" that associated with him and his ilk and looked down on those 
in lower classes &  /  or contributed to the corruption.  There were members 
of the police force that would consistently stop by shops (before 
liberation) and shake down the owners for money -- and there was nothing 
they could do about it.  If the shop owners didn't give up their money, they 
were imprisoned for long periods of time or until their family paid a 
ransom.  We've shown that much of the money they took -- in most cases --  
went right to one of Saddam's sons.  Teachers couldn't teach anything 
relevant -- it was all made up BS by the hard liners.  They didn't want 
children to read! We are trying to change that and provide a foundation for 
normal society.  There are hundreds of stories like this that you 
consistently ignore!  Even the killing of the Kurds!!  You keep referring to 
the American's killing Iraqi's... The "allied forces" met opposing forces 
with force necessary to accomplish the mission of liberating the people of 
Iraq -- and many of the opposing forces weren't even Iraqi.  Meanwhile, good 
Iraqi's also met these opposing forces and many of them were killed trying 
to liberate their own country.

Fact is, you and I won't agree on this -- ever.  You won't go over there and 
see things for yourself but you just sit in your chair and pass judgment on 
the situation without any firsthand knowledge -- which is why I keep 
referring to you as being ignorant in this matter.  I've spent more time 
over there than I care to. The people of that country are wonderful -- and 
there are many whom I miss very much.  Unfortunately, without any internet 
connectivity, and a horrible mail system, it's unlikely I'll ever hear from 
them again -- but I hope I do.

> Show me when and where.

You'd have to go to Iraq like I did and ask....  But, you won't -- so drop 
it.

> > If they had given up, it wouldn't have been necessary.
> "They"? Who are "they"? You just said "they" asked for it. If "they" asked 
> for
> it, why would "they" not have "given up"?

The regime.  There is more than just one person over there..

> > However, FREEDOM always come at the price of blood.
> And so does slavery and murder. Bloodshed is not proof of a just cause.

Yep, it sure does.  Thank god we put an end to the enslavement of the 
people, and now if we can simply get rid of the last of the folks who keep 
sliding across the borders from Iran & Syria we'll be done...

Shannon

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