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Skriven 2005-12-25 13:59:12 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel van der Vlist
Ärende: Re: Editorial
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> It does not look that way at all. Every day two or three dozen people get
> killed in Iraq. And it goes on and on and on. Day after day. It isn't even 
> news
> here any more. Just one or two lines in the news... :-(

How many schools have opened?  How many people were saved by modern 
medicine?  How many kids can play outside now?  You are only looking at the 
small picture...

> > During the time I've spent in Iraq,
> And that was how long ago?

I was last there in '04 -- less than 2 years ago....

When was the last time YOU were there?

!!!!NEVER!!!!!  ?????  I thought so....  You write under the veil of 
ignorance (yet again!)

> And you believe they will tell you what they really think? Oh, c'mon, they 
> must
> have learned THAT from Saddam. Tell em what they want to hear.

Were you there?? I didn't think so... They were very candid.  I was rarely 
armed when I was there -- I'm a "navy" guy, not an "army" guy.

> You don't speak their language and you probably never went out on the 
> streets
> alone and unarmed.

My interpreter spoke perfect Arabic & Farsi.  He wasn't armed either, he was 
Iraqi...

> To get people to confide in you, you have to speak their language and mix 
> with
> them as if you were one of them. You can never do that, so you will never 
> get
> the real story out of them.

I don't remember seeing you there... Oh that's right, you weren't there... 
Man, you really are an ignorant dumbass aren't you?


> And you think the corruption is going to stop just like that?

Nope, never said it would.  It's an ongoing battle, but NOW people aren't 
afraid to speak up and stand up for what they think is right!

> That is just plain propaganda. Before Gulf War I Iraq was a prosperous 
> country
> with good education and health care.

Were you there???  NO you were NOT... Again, you are an ignorant dumbass who 
only WANTS to believe what you WANT to believe; not the truth mind you!

> Yes, I do that, I try to ignore propaganda.

HA, that's all you read is that liberal propaganda.  Man, you really are an 
ignorant dumbass...!

> I did vent some doubts about who did it though. There were other parties 
> with
> good motives around you know.

Suck up to Saddam while you are at it why don't you...?

> And you keep forgetting that not only 2100 American soldiers have died 
> since
> the invasion but also tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians...

I have NOT forgot & how dare you accuse me of such lack of patriotism....!! 
AND -- how dare you SPEAK for  them!!  They gave their lives to liberate a 
country, how dare you belittle their deaths by even writing those words. 
You are a sorry ass old broken worthless liberal who hates this country and 
will write & believe whatever you think will suit your tastes for the day.

> There is no pint in going there myself. There is nothing useful I can do, 
> I'd
> just waste my time and maybe my life.

Nope, you won't... You'll just sit at home in your ignorance and continue 
ranting in the echoes about things you know NOTHING about :)  Yaw know, it's 
become really easy to help you look like an ass :)

> Nobody has firsthand knowledge. Right now you are just as far from it as I 
> am.

"I" get daily sitreps from my shipmates who are there -- in the streets.  I 
HAVE been there for 1 year & 6 months accumulated time ON THE GROUND.  I 
write with authority on the subject, you write with a pen dipped in dog 
doo... :)

> I read papers

Only the papers that support your POV.

> I watch television

Only the programs that support your POV.

>just like you. If I am ignorant, so are you.

"I" get daily sitreps from my shipmates who are there -- in the streets.  I 
HAVE been there for 1 year & 6 months accumulated time ON THE GROUND.  I 
write with authority on the subject, you write with a pen dipped in dog 
doo... :)

> From the back seat of an armored vehicle?

Were you there with me??  no...   When I visited the shops & talked to the 
folks in town, "I" was in civilian local drab purchased locally...  NOT in 
Kevlar amour..  It's obvious you just watch what the media wants you to see. 
It's not cool to show the military & civilian contractors in local drap --  
no -- they only show folks in full military gear on the front lines.  You 
are much more like BJ than you'd care to admit.  He watches one movie, "John 
Q" or something, and he believes that is what America is like... Well, you 
watch some fictitious TV program and assume the same thing about Iraq... 
It's hilarious!

> And how come there is no internet connectivity and a decent mail system?

It's being built... They NEVER had good Internet connectivity or a decent 
mail system.  We are helping them develop them.

The rest of this message is just more BS side stepping and ignorant 
rants....  It's a waste, YOU are a waste of time....

Cheers,
Shannon 

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