Text 20135, 73 rader
Skriven 2005-12-27 13:45:55 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 20086 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: Lack of Gratitude
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 BF>> Do you see here Ross what I mean and then Shannon complain about us
 BF>> insulting USA.

 RC> Its a cummalative thing and its not your fault you werent hanging around
 RC> here after 9-11-2001.

And Frank was?

 RC> After 911, all we heard from FELTEN, Michiel and several others was crap
 RC> that it was all our fault for it, they didnt show outrage over the attack,
 RC> they more or less said we got what we deserved.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but somehow I have to agree with them.
USA can't have it's nose in everything without getting it burned. If you mess
with the bad guys they sooner or later will get back to you in their own way.
I condemn 911 as well as the invation of Iraq and now the bad guys knows
what it's like to mess with the good guys but you did it for the wrong reason.
And where is all this leading?
The violence is increasing at the cost of both American and Iraqi (and even
Swedish) lives and I wouldn't be surprised if/when there is another terrorist
attack in the US and what will happend then? How many more American civilian
life must be wasted for nothing?

 RC> So after 4 years of that crap, which you apparently missed out on, some of
 RC> it has gotten returned.

Then we are back to the sandbox mentality that Frank Vest described here
earlier and it will not end until someone is dead. Is that what you want?
If you are those good guys you claim to be, leave it be and as I have said
before, it's one thing to BE right and another to HAVE right.

 RC> You should try to reel in those people and perhaps that will happen here?

I'm not sure what you mean here.

 RC> I know you dont share the same views as them but you arent aware of the
 RC> barrage of anti-usa crap they have shoved down our throats for 4 years
 RC> now.

You should be used to it. It's been going on since the Vietnam war...... :-)

 BF>> If you think this is OK, fine, but don't whine when he gets back just
 BF>> what he deserves.

 RC> See above, he is returning 4 years worth of it.

Oki, then we can keep this bickering going on then....

 BF>>  Do you really think he can imagine how it was to
 BF>> live in a country, occupied by an awful enemy that shot people for
 BF>> nothing and treated those who were alive worse then a dog. I certainly

 RC> I lost 2 Uncles in that war, one of which in the european theatre.

 RC> Obviously I never got to meet them.

I'm sorry for that but life have to go on just as for those who lost their
entire
family in the Tsunami.

 RC> WW2 forever changed the USA and its foreign policy, after it tried to play
 RC> the isolationalist and let you all fight your own fight. You are getting
 RC> the above argument because you all (not you) failed to enforce the treaty
 RC> of versailles on Hitler and contain him before he lashed out.

 RC> On the other hand, the treaty of versailles severely crippled Germany,
 RC> with the European victors wanting more blood out of Germany.

That's history that we have to learn from, not to live after.

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