Text 20837, 111 rader
Skriven 2006-01-03 19:17:42 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
  Kommentar till text 20750 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: Lack of Gratitude
=============================
*** Quoting FRANK SCHEIDT from a message to CAROL SHENKENBERGER ***

-=> Quoting Carol Shenkenberger to Frank Scheidt <=-

 FS> Is that what "isn't too stupid" means to you?  ... Hmmmmmm ...
 FS> Apparently English isn't your first language ... too bad, for if 
 FS> it were you'd have less difficulty in interpreting meanings.

 CS> I'd drop that line if I were you Frank.

FS> Obviously you are not I.  Also I respond in kind as I've pointed 
FS> out before.  If anyone is rude to *me*, I respond the same way.  
FS> I'm not trying to justify that do-not-turn-the-other-cheek 
FS> behavior but that's the way it is.  People who act in a civilized 
FS> manner to *me* receive equal treatment.

Ok, but you just used the comment of 'not native language' at a native language
english speaker.  While it is possible to have a little confusion with OZ
folks that only happens when 'colliqilazms' are used (sorry, dyslexia here,
never could spell worth a damn but I get close enough any native speaker can
tell what word I meant).

Let me be clear here.  You've used words in such a way as to indicate clearley
to any 'native english person' that you seemed to have served in WWII in a war
capacity in Europe.  This may have been accidental but once you started
getting replies also clearly showing this impression from Z2 nodes, you
'should' have corrected it then.  Frank, you waited too long to fix that up.

You are not a bad person at all.  I enjoy you in several echos and you can be
very entertaining and I think this time you just made a mistake.

It's hard to fess up to a mistake.  Been there, done that.  Back in my flaming
days, I actually had the audacity to tell a person how to run their own system
and flamed him quite a bit.  God was I *dumber than a rock*.  It took me
almost 1 year to realize how *dumb* I was. Once I did though, I ended one of
the bigger flame wars in Fidonet by apologizing, in as public of a forum as i
had flamed him in.  I was totally wrong and once I realized it, I gritted my
teeth and admitted it.  With incredible grace, the other person took all my
flamers and stuff and let it go totally and became a friend that I treasure
*most highly* who has never let me down.  Yet, we started with a flame war.

You will also note if you have been around in the right echos that Micheal van
der Vlist and I occasionally 'erupt' but we get along well enough and when I
need help testing my ever-changing DSN<-->POTS dialup, he's always willing to
help me out.  (They change my inbound access with little notice and i have to
backtrack one that hits in March that may make me have to change nodelist and
origion lines but want to test it first).  No one is 'evil' here and the
people you may disagree with this week, may well be willing to *help* you if
have a need and ask.

(slight digression, Japan phone lines translated to POTS commercial via a DSN
military switch are very probematic and in summer heat, I get bad connections
to everyone on both directions).

 FS> U.S. Army for 3-1/2 years.  I am *not* old.  I do *not* agree I

 CS> This is what is getting you in hot water. 

FS> I don't think so.  I think what's getting me in hot water is the 

You chopped the wrong sentance there.  It was your words of *having been there*
in a clear response query. I do however find it objectionable to toss 'old' in
your face, not do you seem even faintly senile to me.  I may not agree with
your handling of the WWII subject, but senile you are not and I'd like to hope
I will be as clearminded as you if I reach my 80's.

FS> fact that I stand up for the US in complaining about the lack of 
FS> help Europe is giving us in the Iraq thing.  We're fighting 

That debate, I have stayed out of.  I note mostly what is locally relevant to
it (Japan is trying to help out).

FS> that's *their* fault for not carrying their share of the load.

I think from reading the bits we get here, we have a slanted view on that.  The
USA has tossed so many troops there, that there is little need in feel to
match them. A slow replacement as we draw them down might well be a better
pattern. Not even numbers as we have too many there but the USA is slowing
bringing that down (as they should at this stage).


 CS> There's nothing wrong in
 CS> serving in  some other capacity.  

FS> Anyone who received an honorable discharge during WWII can be 
FS> assumed to have carried his share of the load.  I *know* I did an 
FS> effective job as a soldier and did my bit.

And i am sure you are right.  You are under fire now only because of a choice
of wording that made it seem you were claiming a particular area of effort
that you were not in, and didnt correct the impression soon enough.


 CS> Michelle and I used to go 'can shopping' when we got hungry and always
 CS> found  something though we werent allowed to use the stove to heat it
 CS> up at that age. 
 CS> Grin, Charlotte at age 12 is not very good with a can opener because
 CS> we use few 
 CS> things in cans here on a normal basis, but i could manage one at age 7
 CS> once we  discovered 'canned fruit cocktail' stuff!

FS> Sort of a necessity-is-the-mother-of-invention thing for you at 
FS> age 7 ... heh heh heh ...

Oh yeah!  Definatly!  Canned cold food was better thna Mom's cooking (lovely
woman, excellent mother, but not a cook which is her only failing and I mean
that for real).
                                       xxcarol

--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4
 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS, Sasebo Japan 81-6160-527330 (6:757/1)