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Skriven 2006-01-04 10:49:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av PAUL SANDERS
Ärende: [1/2] Lack of Gratitude
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-=> Quoting Paul Sanders to Frank Scheidt <=-

 PS>>> Can you point out to us what attacks these insurgents in Iraq made on
 PS>>> the U.S *before* the U.S invaded Iraq ?
 
 FS>>You'd have to specifically identify at least one of the
 FS>>insurgents before I could give you a precise answer ...
 
 PS>> Didn't thinbk you could point out any attacks.
 
 FS>Wait!  You think we invaded Iraq because of some insurgent
 FS>attack?  What gave you *that* idea??  We attacked Iraq because
 FS>George W. Bush had good reason to believe Saddam Hussein was a
 FS>danger to us.

 PS> Cause & Effect, you said the attack on Iraq was caused by the attacks
 PS> on the U.S on 9/11.

Oh, I see the source of your latest mistake:  You think the 
murdering bombers of the WTC were insurgents?  Usually by 
"insurgents" currently we refer to the murderers in Iraq.  
However if you wish to dub the murdering bombers of the WTC 
"insurgents" I have no objection -- though you *did* refer to 
"these insurgents in Iraq made on the U.S *before* the U.S 
invaded Iraq ?"  Actually *none* of the murderers of 9/11 were 
from Iraq.  Would you care to take back your question now -- or, 
possibly, to rephrase it so it would be a bit more accurate?  
Thank you.

 PS> G W Bush did not have good reason to believe Saddam Hussein was a
 PS> danger to the U.S (he chose to ignore reports from U.S intelligence
 PS> agencies that did not agree with his goal)
 
George W. Bush considered only reports he knew about.  Reports 
later dug up which he *hadn't* seen don't apply.

 FS>>>But it's in your own interest that we *act* by trying to save the
 FS>>>world from the terrorists ...
 
 PS>>> Trying to save the U.S you mean.
 
 FS>>The US *is* part of the world ... [sigh] ...
 
 PS>> but not the whole world.
 
 FS>Did I say that?

 PS> You said 'save the world', if you meant the U.S, then say it. The U.S
 PS> is not the only place on this planet.
 
When I said "save the world" I meant just that!   That *includes* 
the US.

 FS>>>Huh?  There *is* no such thing as a "holy war".  That's pure
 FS>>>nonsense!
 
 PS>>> In *your* religion that maybe correct.
 
 FS>>There is no such thing as a "holy war" period.  You don't believe
 FS>>that?  Then prove that there *is*.  Which nation declared it?

 PS> You get hung up on 'nation', don't you.
 PS> Its a bit like your president declaring war on terrorism.
 
I note you *again* avoid my question ... [sigh] ...

 PS>> Oh, so you think only nations can declare wars, bet that makes you
 PS>> feel better about yourself.
 
 FS>What gives you *that* idea?   Do you think an individual person
 FS>with no national authority can declare war?  Can *you* declare
 FS>war?  I doubt it ...

 PS> If I had thousands of fanatical followers I could declare a holy war
 PS> on whoever I chose.
 
Sure you could, but it wouldn't be official by any means ...

 FS>>>I don't think it's that simple.  What happened is this:  Those
 FS>>>people *attacked* us!  We are now defending ourselves ...
 
 PS>>> Yes, they attacked the U.S, why was that ?
 
 FS>>Who knows?  Insanity I suppose since there was no logical reason
 FS>>for that to take place.

 PS> Figures that you would have no idea.
 
Since I'm obviously not insane, I suppose I wouldn't ...

 PS>> and that is why many people have no time foir the U.S.
 
 FS>What's *that* supposed to mean?

 PS> If you were not so 'one eyed' & closed minded you would have an idea
 PS> as to why.

I have *two* eyes and my mind is open to everything.  I then 
examine what my mind sees, and make sensible decisions based on 
that ... so?

 PS> ... I have a mind like a steel...uh...thingamajig...

I seems to be rusted shut currently ... [sigh] ...

... "Don't trust them.  Don't trust them.  Let them die!" ÄÄ Kirk

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