Text 21270, 89 rader
Skriven 2006-01-07 19:40:12 av Peter Knapper (3:772/1.0)
  Kommentar till text 21241 av Frank Scheidt (1:123/140)
Ärende: [1/2] Lack of Gratitude
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Hi Frank,

 PK> It was simply a retaliation against the US for
 PK> activities the USA has been carrying out that were against the people
 PK> that carried out the 911 attacks. But I am fairly sure we have been
 PK> over this before... 

 FS> You have never specifically named the people who were the 
 FS> mythical "victims", and what was done to them.

That is because the attackers did not clearly identify the exact victims it was
in retaliation for, other than to say it was a retaliation.


 FS> Huh?  15 of the 19 terrorists doing the bombing of the WTC were 
 FS> Saudi Arabian citizens.  We presumably had friendly relations 
 FS> with the Saudis hence that nation had no reason to attack us.

 PK> And we all know why the USA did not take on Saudi Arabia for
 PK> harbouring "terrorists"...

 FS> Huh?  I've often puzzled over that.  How do you know?  And why 
 FS> didn't we? 

My determination came from simple observation (and therfore may be incorrect,
but at the moment it seems plausible to me), at the moment, Saudi Arabia
apparently is a "Friend of the USA". IE the USA does not seem to want to rock
that boat. This has resutled in a rather selective response by the USA to the
attacks...


 FS> IOW we cannot know what their rationale was for doing it. 
  
 PK> I think that may be more because you do not wish 
 PK> to see the reasons...

 FS> If I ever did *see* the reasons I might regret it.  That's true.  
 FS> However their so-called rational has never been well-described.

As far as detail is concerned, I agree with that to some extent, I think their
explainations are a bit on the light side, but there is enough there to have
some idea of where they are coming from. What I was more interested in is what
YOU saw with repect to that, but that is why I have been so disappointed to
date...


 FS> I believe I've pointed out before that I have *two* eyes ...
 FS>  
 PK> Then please try opening BOTH of them for a change.
 FS>   
 FS> They both *are* open ... so?

 PK> Then one appears to be defective because you do not appear to be
 PK> seeing the FULL picture...

 FS> Actually I have almost 20/20 vision in both eyes (without 
 FS> glasses).  IOW I have good eyesight. 

Ok, if your eyes are good enough to be able to see your opponents, then why are
you so reluctant to discuss what you think might be driving them?


 FS> Actually it's very easy to define a murderer.  What about the 
 FS> standard definition has you confused?

Because to me it is you that have trouble identifying when it is murder and
defense of ones country.


 PK> Again, the only thing you are demonstrating here is your abilty to
 PK> ignore the other side of the coin. 

 FS> And that other side is??????

The side you seem to be ignoring. The side that lends balance to your
assertions as to who is or is not a terrorist and what the rationale might be
for their actions. 


 FS> ... Carpenter:  A guy who nails down his agreement.

How appropriate... I take it you are saying you are not a carpenter then...;-) 


Cheers.........pk.


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