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Skriven 2006-01-12 12:01:19 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 21552 av Frank Vest (1:124/6308.1)
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 FV>> Ok. I'll continue to insert my POV and other things as well.
 BF>> You are more then welcome to do so as long as I can do the same without
 BF>> being called anti-American.
 FV> I'm hardly in a position to stop you. :)

As long as we do it in a civil manner no one have to stop anyone.

 BF>> Then attack the terrorists that are responsible and don't attack an
 BF>> entire country that didn't have anything to do with it. Why is ObL still
 BF>> free and alive while 30,000 Iraquis are dead? It's no sense in it.
 BF>> Perhaps you haven't heard me saying this before so I say it again, Bush
 BF>> invaded Iraq for the wrong reason and that's what make the rest of the
 BF>> world so frustrated.

 FV> I've asked and felt the same way. I'm not sure why the invasion took
 FV> place, but I didn't like it from the beginning. I want to know why OBl is
 FV> still free too.

It's strange, isn't it. Was it a scam to blaim ObL and then go for Saddam
because of the other scam about WMD:s?
All this just brings up a load of questions that (so far) hasn't any answers.

 FV> I read, hear and am told story after story. None with
 FV> answers that can be proven and not all from USA sources. Who the hell
 FV> should I believe??? I don't have the answer to that and I've not found
 FV> anyone that does have the answer.

It all seems to be a huge cover-up for somthing that can be read about in
books written by Ludlum or Clancy.

 BF>> The U.S. isn't totlly innocent either so I wonder who really did the
 BF>> first slapping and then I don't mean with weapons.

 FV> No one is totally innocent. Not even (maybe especially not) in this echo.
 FV> I have no idea who started what in any of the attacks, slapping or other
 FV> stuff inside or outside this echo, topic or anywhere else. Like I said:
 FV> "Who should I believe???"

Very good question.

 FV>> I really don't have an answer. I just know that this radical group of
 FV>> terrorists can't be allowed to win. I have no desire to change languages
 FV>> and/or religions... or other such things. By constantly backing up from
 FV>> and "understanding" that these poor people were mistreated in the past
 FV>> and should be given anything they want in an effort to soothe their
 FV>> shattered and violated souls and such, the world encourages their
 FV>> behaviour and will eventually lead to a global dominance by them. That is
 FV>> their stated goal in their interpretation of their holy book.

 BF>> No, it isn't.
 BF>> Like with the Bible it *can* be interpreted in so many ways but for a
 BF>> *true* muslim it's the religion of peace.

 FV> That is what I said. The small group of terrorists have their
 FV> interpretation and the rest have a different interpretation. Sorry if that
 FV> wasn't clear.

Sorry I misunderstood you.
I have talked to several muslims and they just can't understand how the
terrorists can interpret it like they do.

 BF>> How many Christians live up to the 10 commandments for example? How many
 BF>> follows the Bible? Does Bush?

 FV> How can anyone live up to anything when the world, and its people, changes
 FV> daily.... sometimes more often than daily?

Unfortunatly, some here will never change and that is just as bad.

 FV>> I'll live and let live, but
 FV>> when someone slaps me, I tend to get a bit pissed. I may have to take it
 FV>> because I'm smaller, but if I'm not smaller, I will demand the ceasing of
 FV>> the treatment.
 BF>> See my answer to what Frank Schiedt wrote. That's what pisses *us* up. Is
 BF>> he to be called a true Christian?

 FV> I have no idea of his religious belief or anyone elses belief.

A true Christian doesn't advocate to do the first slapping and go to war for
the wrong reason at the wrong enemy.

 BF>> Like I have no problem with you but I do have with the other Frank.
 BF>> Listening to him is like seeing/listen to a n old bl/w film from Germany
 BF>> from 1935 when the brown-boots started to march here in Europe and we all
 BF>> know where that took us. Shouldn't we learn something from the history?
 BF>> Get rid of the fanatics (on both sides) and there will be peace on earth.

 FV> First you have to define "fanatic". I doubt that Adolph Hitler considered
 FV> himself a fanatic. I don't think that OSB considers himself a fanatic. You
 FV> could consider me a fanatic... and in some ways, I probably am.

A real fanatic never consider himself to be a fanatic, they are to
narrow-minded
to realize that they are and not sensitive for others opinion.

 FV> Definitions from Google:
 FV> # marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or
 FV> idea; "rabid isolationist"

 FV> # a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause); "A fanatic
 FV> is one who can't change his mind and won't change the
 FV> subject"--Winston Churchill   wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

 FV> # Fanaticism, from French fanatique or Latin fanaticus 'of a temple,
 FV> inspired by a god'.    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanatic

 FV> I fit the first one in some cases. The second one fits a lot of this echo.
 FV> :) I kinda like the last one. My fanaticism could make me a god!! :))

This makes me say that you definatly isn't a fanatic, only a normal thinking
individual that doesn't listen to just one side before making your own opinion.

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