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Skriven 2006-01-16 16:30:44 av Paul Sanders (3:633/104)
  Kommentar till text 22544 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
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PS>>yes, I read them, most of it refered to missiles that might be capable
PS>>of carrying nuclear war heads.;

 ST> Hmmm Why would Iran want missiles capable of carrying nuclear
 ST> weapons if they don't intend to acquire nuclear weapons?

Many countries that do not have nuclear weapons have missiles that
could carry nuclear war heads

PS>>The report was issued in September 2005, *not* 2000.

 ST> That 'article' likely referenced an old report.  It's too dated
 ST> and not accurate any longer.

*Those*  articles refered to sept 2005 as the release date of the IISS
report.

PS>>there is no evidence that Iraq has nuclear weapons.

ST>Why are you deflecting stuff to Iraq now?  We were discussing Iran...

We both are aware that I mean Iran.

PS>>all to do with *missile* technology.

ST>Yep, with NUCLEAR WARHEADS.

Correct, but that is something that we wont have to worry about (from
Iran) for about 10 years.

ST>>Assuming you've read this far -- you need to go out to the net, news
ST>>publications and actually do some reading.

PS>>Of publications that are not extremely biased against Iran, or pro
PS>>Israel.

PS>>Ben there, done that.

 ST> Well, when you surf Disney.porn.com all day, you won't read
 ST> anything remotely related to Iran's nuclear program.

ST>>Simply wanting Iran to not have nuclear weapons doesn't make it so.
PS>>Next you will be telling us the Iran already has nuclear weapons
PS>>(contrary to what *every* report says)

ST>Oh Really?  You really should read some of those info-articles I've posted.
ST>How about this one (previously posted which you ignored).

ST>>One of Iran’s generals stated on December 28 that Iran has nuclear
Ignored because there is more than ample evidence to show that Iran
does not have nuclear weapons

PS>>That it will be at least 10 years, at the current raqte, before Iran
PS>>may have a nuclear weapon bothers me a whole lot less that Israel
PS>>cunnrently have hundreds of nuclear weapons.

ST>Oh -- it bothers you?  I didn't think you cared.  Paul, open your eyes, surf
ST>away from disney.porn.com and smell the uranium.  It's on it's way....

disney.porn.com ? one of your favorites sites I suppose.


What worries me is something like this:

(snip)
What follows is the unfolding of a worst-case scenario, an imaginary
yet all-too-possible depiction of how events might develop if Israel
were to attack Irans nuclear facilities.

Day One: Wednesday

In a pre-dawn raid, undisclosed numbers of Israeli warplanes, taking
off from military airbases in the Negev, destroy Iran’s main nuclear
facility at Bushehr. Israel’s armed forces have released no details,
but it is believed the planes flew over parts of Jordan, northern
Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, refueling in mid-air before reaching their
target. Military analysts speculate that the planes must have refueled
somewhere over Iraq.

During the one-hour raid, Iran claims to have shot down several
Israeli fighters. Television images show pilots being lynched by
furious mobs before Iranian authorities could reach them. The
after-effects of the raid shake the Arab and Islamic world. Millions
take to the streets demanding immediate action against Israel.

In planning the attack, Israel weighed the threats of Arab and Muslim
reaction. The only other nuclear threat, and a possible danger to
Israel, is Pakistan. Israel considered striking Pakistan’s nuclear
sites, too, but Indian intelligence reports that Pakistan lacks
long-distance delivery for its warheads. Bombay is the farthest they
can reach. Additional reassurance from American intelligence convinced
Israel that as long as Musharraf remains in power, Pakistan does not
represent an imminent threat. The decision was made not to hit
Pakistan.

Day Two: Thursday

Believing that Israel would never undertake such actions without U.S.
approval, or at least a tacit nod from the American administration,
Iran retaliates. Thousands of Revolutionary Guards are dispatched
across the border into Iraq with orders to inflict as many casualties
on American troops as possible. Fierce clashes erupt between coalition
forces and Iranians. Within hours, more than 400 U.S. troops are
killed, and many more wounded in heavy fighting. Iranian sleeper
agents, who have infiltrated Iraq since the downfall of Saddam, urge
Iraqi Shi’ites into action. They cut major highways and harass
coalition troops, preventing reinforcements from reaching units under
attack. Several helicopters are shot down.

Tehran orders the Lebanese Shi’ite movement, Hezbollah, into action
against northern Israel. Hezbollah launches scores of rockets and
mortars against kibbutzim, towns, and settlements. Israel retaliates.
Casualties are high on both sides of the frontier. Tension in the
Middle East reaches a boiling point. In Washington, the Cabinet
convenes in an emergency session.

Massive demonstrations erupt all over the Arab and Islamic world.
Crowds of gigantic proportions take to the streets, ransacking Israeli
embassies in Cairo, Amman, and Ankara. American embassies in a number
of other cities are burned. With police overwhelmed, the military is
called in. Armies open fire, killing hundreds, adding to the outrage.

Day Three: Friday

Following Friday prayers across the Islamic world, crowds incited by
fiery sermons in mosques from Casablanca to Karachi take to the
streets in the worst protests yet. Government buildings are ransacked,
and clashes with security forces result in greater casualties. Martial
law is declared, and curfew imposed, but this fails to prevent further
mayhem and rioting. Islamist groups call for the overthrow of
governments and for immediate military action against Israel.

In Saudi Arabia, Islamist militants engage in open gun battles with
security forces in several cities. The whereabouts of the Saudi royal
family are unknown. In Indonesia, Malaysia, Egypt, and a dozen other
countries, crowds continue to run amok, demanding war on Israel.

Day Four: Saturday

A longstanding plan to overthrow Musharraf is carried out by senior
Pakistani army officers loyal to the Islamic fundamentalists and with
close ties to bin Laden. The coup is carried out in utmost secrecy.

Pakistans intelligence service, the ISI—a long-time supporter of the
fundamentalists—in agreement with the plotters, takes control of the
countrys nuclear arsenal and its codes. Within hours, and before news
of the coup leaks out, Pakistan, now run by pro-bin Laden
fundamentalists, loads two nuclear weapons aboard executive Lear jets
that take off from a remote military airfield, headed for Tel Aviv and
Ashdod. Detouring and refueling in east Africa, they approach Israel
from the south. The crafts identify themselves as South African. Their
tail markings match the given identification.

The two planes with their deadly cargo are flown by suicide pilots
who, armed with false flight plans and posing as business executives,
follow the flight path given to them by Israeli air traffic control.
At the last moment, however, the planes veer away from the airfield,
soar into the sky and dive into the outskirts of the two cities,
detonating their nuclear devices in the process.

The rest of this scenario can unfold in a number of ways. Take your
pick; none are encouraging.

Israel retaliates against Pakistan, killing millions in the process.
Arab governments fall. Following days of violence, Syria, Jordan, and
Egypt succumb to Islamist rebels who vow open warfare with Israel. The
Middle East regresses into war, with the fighting claiming hundreds
of thousands of lives. A much-weakened Israel, now struggling for its
very survival, deploys more nuclear weapons, targeting multiple Arab
capitals. The Middle East is in complete mayhem, as the United States
desperately tries to arrange a cease-fire.

(snip)

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