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Skriven 2004-11-30 06:34:40 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
   Kommentar till text 2326 av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
Ärende: Moderating
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G'day Philip

29 Nov 04 06:34, Philip Lozier wrote to David Drummond:

 PL>>> You, sir, are in breach of common sense and the way things are done.

 DD>> How things are done varies from place to place. Policy is
 DD>> the same document at each of those places.

 PL> The fact that you missed the real meat of it, as indicated by not 
 PL> seeing it quoted and responded to, makes it impossible to discuss it 
 PL> with you.

Which bit did you conside to be "the meat"?

 PL> I explained the responsibility of the Sysop to you, but you ignored 
 PL> that portion with an "well it's noit done that way here"... 
 PL> irrelevant if you don't do it that way there or not, as in common 
 PL> practice those methods have and continue to be used. 

Common there perhaps, but not everywhere. Policy is the only bit that is common
through out the world wide Fidonet.

 PL> By actual practice the extent of responsibility of the SysOp, and the 
 PL> means to satisfy that responsibility, have been defined by use.

Huh?

 PL> Policy 4 does not cover ANY of the practices of echomail in the first 
 PL> place, but does mention the responsibility of nodes.  Long before you 
 PL> or I started tromping around the dog pen, these matters were already 
 PL> handled by practice. 

Yes, a practise that varies from place to place (except where mandated by
policy).

 PL> So long as the SysOp will handle a sittuation *IF* it arises, the 
 PL> SysOp/Node meets that obligation of responsibility.

Yes, it is the sysop's responsibility to halt the issue, it's his system.

 PL> Hell, we're SysOp's for crying out loud, not baby sitters and prison 
 PL> guards, or echomail cops.

We are responsible for what eminates from our systems. If we are unable to
resolve echomail issues our systems may be excised from the echo.

Are you not capable of being responsible for yourself and your system? Do you
really need these draconian moderators/enforcers to watch over you?

 PL> Your implying that I am in violation of Pee4 for not monitoring every 
 PL> echomail base on my system is purely assinine, and it should have me 
 PL> riled than, but I only need consider the source of the comment and it 
 PL> becomes purely comical.

I imply nothing of the sort. I imply that if a problem exists with mail
eminating from your system, you as sysop, are responsible for fixing it.

Regards,
David

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