Text 24131, 60 rader
Skriven 2006-01-28 10:42:24 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 23674 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
Ärende: This echo...
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 ST> This echo is what it is because those who participate want it to be that
 ST> way.

And we all have been participating, haven't we?

 ST> "I" was accused of being the source of discord in this echo, and so to
 ST> prove a pont, I've been a lurker for this past week, reading when it suits
 ST> me....

And it have actually been a bit cooler....

 ST> As demonstrated by those who are here, the "Source" of discord is not
 ST> myself, but rather several others.  The "prime" person who continues to
 ST> stir hate and discontent is none other than the Fidonews editor.

Well, he isn't alone....

 ST> Bjorn wants a platform for anti-american statements; the Americans
 ST> (including myself) hate him for his outward hatred toward us (put us in a
 ST> room together and we'll settle it all). If BJ left, I don't think MvD
 ST> would stay in the echo. It's just my opinion, but he's a coward and BJ is
 ST> the only one here who has his back on those BS scrwed up issues he brings
 ST> to the table.

I can't do more then agree but then you also have Frank S, Dan and Roy and now
even Philip on your"side" and they aren't a bit better at all.

 ST> It won't change until Bjorn is removed from his post and leaves. Shannon

And it wont be a bit better if those above are the only once left, then the
rest
of us will leave too and then you will have an empty echo and Fidonet will
die. I for one will certainly leave if that happends.

What I can't understand is why it is so impossible to discuss anything without
any hard feelings. Just look at when Roy and MvD talked about welding (not
that that intrest me att all) but why can't it be like that all the time? Why
can't
anyone in here accept that they are wrong without finding errors at the other
and then I take Roy (sorry for that) as an example.
N379P *was* here (the CIA plane) and our government have agreed to it and
have taken the blaim for it. STILL Roy have to come up with that it was an
Egyptian plane with forged markings. Don't you think that that pisses *us* up?

And everything can't be proven and then I mean what I did hear on the Swedish
news about The Red Cross. Why make such a big issue of it?
I heard what I heard even if it later might be wrong but I don't know since I
wasn't at home so I wasn't able to follow it up.  Why bother about it and make
such a fuzz? Just accept that I heard it and talk about it in a civil manner.

And the thing about CCTV. I don't give a shit about what those letter stands
for as long as know it's a Chinese government controlled channel.
With this I'm only pointing out that it isn't once fault that two are arguing
and if
we all calm down and listen to each other instead of finding the others errors
this would be a better place.

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