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Skriven 2006-02-14 09:52:16 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 25505 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
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13 Feb 06 22:59, Dale Shipp wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>>> It's a made up name. It's indicative of the area of California
 RW>>> where he lives. There's a valley or some-such with the name of
 RW>>> Frezberg...don't know where he came up with Zorch...I have a group
 RW>>> picture of Zorch with the people he used to work with; he has a
 RW>>> mask on that makes him look like a space alien. He's a Trekky
 RW>>> fan...

 DS>>   I have a copy of that picture, and there is someone in it who is
 DS>>   identified as Mark Hernandez -- the person you are claiming was
 DS>> the
 DS>>   true identity of Zorch.

 RW>> If so, someone as added that to the picture. I'm the one who found
 RW>> that picture while doing the research on his true identity.

 DS>   It is not on the picture, but it was on the caption on the web site
 DS>   where I found it way back when.  That site is no longer there.

I still have a copy if you want one. If I look hard enough, I might just
come up with the file folder I kept on that investigation.

 DS>>   I've never seen any evidence that any of the people accused of
 DS>> having dual identities in fidonet (which includes you) are in fact
 DS>> doing so.

 RW>> Perhaps you were too busy doing your thing in the cooking echoes to
 RW>> notice.

 DS>    That does remain to be the prime reason that I am in fidonet.

And mine was the CHATTER and AUTORACE echoes, until the moderator tried to
remove me from the latter.

 RW>> All of the info on Zorch came about because he was on a list
 RW>> of R10 people (10 to be exact), who filed PCs against Ruth Argust
 RW>> for putting her node number on the BBS of her NCs BBS; aka, her
 RW>> live-in boy

 DS>     Since that is in another region from where I am, there is no
 DS> reason that I should have seen that.

However, you might have seen evidence of it when it spilled over into the
internationally distributed echoes, like FNS and others.

 RW>> friend. Of course the PC was denied out of hand and the RC10 lost
 RW>> his crown because of it. Frezberg's real identity in Mark Hernandez,
 RW>> as that was the name the telephone's listed under that name and
 RW>> Zorch's, were listed by the telephone company. Same address in the
 RW>> same town too.

 DS>    I seem to recall that the evidence for you having an alias was
 DS> very similar ---  namely that a phone number in the nodelist for
 DS> another sysop name was registered in your name, or perhaps it was
 DS> vice versa.

That was the phone number left at my rental, where I used to live. Since
the renter was also a friend of mine with money troubles, I left him the
phone and included it in the rent (which is what I also did with the
water bill, so he'd be sure to water the grass).

 DS>    In both cases, I would consider that evidence, but also would
 DS>    consider that there might be other legitimate reasons for it.

Since it wasn't the only phone number in my name, it would be hard to tell
which was the one where I lived at the time.

 DS>    From the limited information available in fidonet, it would be
 DS> very difficult to verify anyone's identity.  Pictures help, and
 DS> personal contact helps a lot.

But the information I found on Mark/Zorch wasn't from Fidonet. It was from
the internet and state records. Ruth was familiar with Zorches voice and
when she made an ill-advised phone call, she recognized the voice listed
under Hernadez' name to be that of Zorch.


Roy
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