Text 28875, 132 rader
Skriven 2006-05-05 17:11:04 av Philip Lozier (1:267/169)
  Kommentar till text 28828 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
Ärende: WWII revisited
======================
 DC>>> The war might have been a lot different had more of those subs
 DC>>> become operational.

 PL>>> The war might have been a lot different if the USA didn't get
 PL>>> involved... "our" stealth fighter technology is based on Germany's
 PL>>> early attempts at it (though it even took us a couple of decades to
 PL>>> actually figure it out)... "our" space program was based on German
 PL>>> rocket technolgy... "our" ICBM's and targeting systems were also
 PL>>> based on it... "our" ability for jet aircraft advancing as fast as
 PL>>> it did

 DC>> We "borrowed" a lot, but we also had the engineers and manufacturing
 DC>> to get those programs running productively.

 RW> Hmmm, the V2 targeting system was point and shoot. The best you can
 RW> say
 RW> for it is that what goes up, must come down, somewhere. It's
 RW> targeting
 RW> system wasn't any different than artillary trajectory calculations.

And yet the USA practicly kidnapped an entire team of scientists, including
Werner van Braun, and "put them to worK" for -us-.  Do your homework a little
more and see how far into the developments of the USA's rocket and space
program they were actually involved in.


 RW> OTH, ICBM's have a computerized targeting system that can adjust
 RW> for
 RW> windage and elevation.

But -who- also worked on the changing of it all when the technology to allow
for it came around?

 RW> PS - The Germans had no idea what stealth fighter technology was,
 RW> let
 RW> alone make any attempts at producing a stealth fighter. And if you
 RW> put
 RW> some thought into it, there were technically, only propeller driven
 RW> aircraft at the time. I'm not discounting the fact that the Nazi'
 RW> had
 RW> developed jet aircraft. But, propellers (even jet turbine blades)
 RW> give a
 RW> very bright radar image.

Horton V3 used propellors... the Horton V9 used BMW jets.  The V9 version
was the very basis of the USA stealth fighter technology, the aircraft (Old
German WWII and modern USA version) both looking amazingly similar in their
shape of design, and is considered to possibly be the source of the "foo
fighter" legends of WWII, as well as post WWII "UFO" claims by people  in areas
located near
"TOP SECRET" military installations... it also explains why the "UFO's" didn't
show on radar, but why visual sightings existed even by reputable people.  Not
flying saucers baby... just the good 'ol USA playing with the technology they
"discovered" and an "alien" nutcase scenario being allowed to develop as
popular culture to throw the people off.

The amazing -speed- of the "UFO's" is easily explained too!  The Horton "flying
wing" was capable of speeds over 600mph.  Not bad for that era, hey?  What's
the sound barrier (super sonic flight) again?  Not much above that, and -how-
long did it take for the USA to achieve it after that?

Exagerated stories about them "zipping" across the sky can be completely
understood, as the people of that day had -never- seen anything move that fast
in the air, and to them it seemed like a kazillion mph.

Machine gun technology ... how much life has the M60 had as staple to the USA
groundforces?  Quite a bit, hey?  Directly a modified German machine gun model,
of whichthe model number escapes me now, but I'm sure you can look it up,
unless you want to deny it by ignorance and not bother.

Hellicopters first introduced on a low scale non combat role in Korea,
and a mainstay and vital tool in Vietnam, as well as used to this day by
the USA  ...

Even though we were -working- on it in WWII, and there were a few early
designs, it was knowledge gained by the Germans that allowed us to "perfect" it
to the level to put them into service in Korea only a very few years later in
the conflict in Korea... particularly the vertical tail prop with the single
stablizer that gave those type of craft more controled flight.

Amazingly enough as well, if you look at the basic wear of our combat soldiers
today... they have a striking resemblence to field troops of Germany at the
time ... not the gray shitstepper versions, but the combat versions.

By this point, you're saying "he's rattling on too much" and can't keep
anybodies attention.  All I can say is you have a low attention span then and
despite the giving of facts, that you say nobody gives,
you don't care.  You want short simple responses so you can Twitt Bigot away
and convince us of just how much Goebbels would have loved you being the
suseptible type of fool you are to propoganda, rather than somebody who puts
"checks and balances" against what the gubbmint -wants- you to believe.

Hey... it's that "paranoia" you claim I have kicking in ;>  Like I said before,
what you call "paranoia" I call a healthy understanding of the world I live in,
and too bad for you, I'm continuing ;>

More *PROPOGANDA* that you have bought into, OBVIOUSLY, is that the reason for
Soviet weapon design throughout the cold war being so very similar to ours was
due to the Russians "stealing" *our* technology.

ROTFLMAO!

Are you really *THAT* gullable of an old fool?

Facts are, they co-counquered the same nation as we did.  They had access to
-much- of the same records we had , getting it because the Germans were such
fantastic and fanatical record keepers, they had sources from info stored at
other locations ... hence the rat race for either side to "secure" scientists
and engineers who worked on these projects.  We -both- had certain stuff... we
-both- excelled in certain areas depending on who was -secured-.  It's a no
brainer man! And NO! It isn't a liberal plot!

It's just the facts... despite wether your (and Frank's) propoganda victim old
ass ass can see it or not.

Was that too circular for you?  Too bad.  Too long winded for you? Too bad. You
don't get it?  That's really too bad... :(  I figured you smarter than that,
but jumping on Franks banwaggon has put you at a disadvantage.  I *TRIED* to
keep you both seperate as can be shown by earlier posts, but you just can't
resist now, can you.

You can come around though!  We'll see.  My hapless, and helpless, self really
hopes so.

What bothers me is that I actually defended -you- at one time, and because of
the "Frank" shit all bets of that seem to be off on that now.


Phil

--- FMail/Win32 1.60
 * Origin: ==<<FLaSHBaCK-BBS>>== part of the NYCap/Adirondack Netwo (1:267/169)