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Skriven 2006-05-14 08:44:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av ROY WITT
Ärende: Canadian "Skills"
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-=> Quoting Roy Witt to Philip Lozier <=-

 RW> No, empty barrels do not rattle.
 
 PL> Say "no" without really thinking about it, then you are REALLY are an
 PL> anal old stubborn dog.  Think about it, and reply properly, and
 PL> maybe, (just maybe), it can be reasonably discussed.  That is NOT
 PL> above you now, is it, oh wise and educated one?

 RW> I've been trying to educate you since this all began. There is nothing
 RW> in an empty barrel, therefore there is nothing that will make the
 RW> barrel rattle.
 
 PL> I wasn't "given" the asnwer (this isn't Jeapordy ya know), but
 PL> thought about it, formulated an oppinion, and solicited outside the
 PL> echo if I was "on the right track" via (oh that wonderful thing
 PL> again) netmail... a puzzle to me, and I wanted to solve it.

 RW> LOL! Logic failed you then.
 
 PL> I did, with the exception (I believe) of my oppinion on barrels
 PL> filled with solid material rather than liquid.  It apears that the
 PL> reason lies mostly with liquid filled barrels being emptied, but
 PL> atill supports the idea that empty barrels -can- rattle, and from
 PL> what I got, also get you drunk too if you're innovative enough ;>

 RW> Ummm, not possible. You see, there is more than one definition of a
 RW> barrel. You've been hornswaggled into believing that Stewie is talking
 RW> about a barrel made of wood and steel rings, while we've been talking
 RW> about gun barrels. Barrels don't rattle, in either case and we've also
 RW> pointed out to you and Stewie several times that a pile of wood and
 RW> steel rings is no longer a barrel. He came up with that anology in an
 RW> attempt to save himself from being laughed out of the echo. Of course
 RW> it failed. He's still the laughing stock of the echo, and you're the
 RW> fool who's getting to the same stage.

There are also "oil barrels" which aren't made of wood ... they, 
too, don't rattle when empty ...
 
 PL> ****NEXT DEBATE*** Can an empty barrel get you drunk? ;>  Those
 PL> rattle, and still -hold- liquid too ;> Even though empty.

 RW> Empty barrels don't rattle. Take an empty barrel, set it on a pedestal
 RW> and see if you can hear it rattle when left undisturbed. The only way
 RW> to hear a rattle is to hit it, which is an induced sound wave that
 RW> isn't conducive to the barrel in its natural state.
 
 PL> I still can't share the answers as it's not my place, and I ask -you-
 PL> (as I know you -can- figure things out) to please think on it and
 PL> prove to us that you're objective by just giving a big (WHADYAKNOW)
 PL> when you discover the facts.

 RW> LOL! Whadyaknow, the barrel still doesn't rattle.
 
 PL>   You'll be better respected for it,

 RW> I'd rather be right than aquire ill gotten respect.
 
 PL>  and not viewed in such a stubborn old dog light as you are now by
 PL> jumping to a guys aid whose views on things have already controdicted
 PL> yours (even though -you- don't see it, yet jump to his "aid" anyway).

 RW> Trying to split us up, eh...of course we're wise to your
 RW> tactics...misery loves company, if you can't beat um, try to convice
 RW> them to join us...sure I won't.
 
He's doing his damnedest to wiggle his way out of the "rattling 
empty barrel" thing ... *somehow* ... without admitting that he's 
been wrong ... he swallowed the hook, now he can't shake it out 
... heh heh heh ...

... "He knows, Doctor. He has reasoned it out." Spock re Kirk

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