Text 3002, 88 rader
Skriven 2004-12-07 20:53:34 av mark lewis (1:3634/12)
   Kommentar till text 2914 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
Ärende: Z1B <> EP1
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 ml>> moved up the echomail chain and that goes back to before the Z1B was
 ml>> thought of...

 RW> Right, but I had forgotten what it was called then.

way back, it was just called "the backbone" and not as a title or entity...

 RW> Z1B was as good as any. Wait! Does BOFAQ ring a bell. That was
 RW> before the Z1B and Bodger and Souvestre were involved then.
 RW> Bodger being the Z1EC who set all of the standards for the, hmmmm, .

yes, but this goes back even further... back before kohl, even... i know you
remember him... umm, oh wait... kohl came after bodger, didn't he... well, it
was long before bodger (the first? elected Z1EC)... quite a few years, in
fact...

 ml>>  the Z1B came about when john and others got together to start
 ml>> another backbone because john left the original one due to his not
 ml>> likeing the way some things were going or being done...

 RW> Uh huh, when he and Seaborn finally had the last straw with
 RW> each other.

something like that... i don't recall is bobS was involved with johnS at that
time or not... i'm wanting to say that bobS started the NAB as an alternative
to whatever johnS had going on... either way, that was all after things were
already being done as they were... johnS and bruceB were involved in putting
something down in writting to list the expectations and activities of all sides
of the mail moving stuff...

 RW>>> You might recognize node 1:396/1 as a major echomail
 RW>>> mover during that time.

 ml>> the use of the echolist was going on years before 396/1 thought about
 ml>> becoming a major mail mover...

 ml>> [trim]

 RW>>> You can also see the works of both sysops, Bodger and
 RW>>> Sylvester in your own EP1, as they were the people who
 RW>>> wrote the original.

 ml>> there were others involved at that time, too...

 RW> I used to have a copy here, but it may be on another HD that's
 RW> out of use right now. Hell, I've got MFM HDs in storage with
 RW> those early days on it.

yeah, me, too... and sadly, i don't think i've got any working MFM and/or RLL
cards to be able to fire those hoss' up with... possbily but i dunno... i do
still have my self-built external plexiglass harddrive cabinet that housed four
(!) fullheight drives and four (!) halfheight drives on the old 286-16 ;)

 RW>>> Their version was rejected by the *Cs of this zone and

 ml>> i think it was a bit more involved than that... ISTR that it was
 ml>> rejected here before it ever had a chance to be presented to any
 ml>> other zones...

 RW> But may have been where they came up with it.

possibly... i do recall the early SLA being pretty close to EP1 but not as all
encompassing...

 ml>>  those zones were extremely small in comparison to Z1 at that time...
 ml>> i don't recall if we had progressed as far as Z4 or Z5, though...
 ml>> possibly... possibly not... i'll have to dig in my floppy archives to
 ml>> see what i can find from that era...

 RW> That'd be interesting.

you should have seen the message i posted a few hours ago about the numbers of
systems and such when P4 was passed in June of '89... we did have Z4 at that
time though it was only some 40 or so systems (not counting hosts or hubs)...

 ml>> excellent quote, BTW... it definitely shows that it was the
 ml>> backbone(s) that had these (disputed) requirements...

 RW> Yeup, hopefully clearing things up a bit for those who blame
 RW> it all on the echolist.

i doubt it... seems that some would deny being eff'd in the arse unless/until
someone produced a picture showing such... i've been surprised by some of them
before and it is always possible that they'll surprise me/us again...

)\/(ark

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