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Skriven 2006-07-07 10:36:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av SHANNON TALLEY
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-=> Quoting Shannon Talley to Björn Forsström <=-

 > ST> And there in lies the rub.  "...it isn't none of my business..."  Your
 > ST> fellow man -- our fellow human beings were being gassed and killed why 
 > you
 > ST> indicate it's none of your business.
 > Not even the Germans was aware of what was going on in the concentration
 > camps at that time but we are very well informed about what's going on at
 > Guantanamo. Same shift different places. We cared about those prisoners but

 ST> Oh?  Have you been there and seen the place?  Those guys are living
 ST> high on  the hog over there and are being treated very well.  I know
 ST> this first hand  :)   You can't possibly compare prisoners of war being
 ST> treated, fed, housed,  and clothed to the slaughtering Saddam did to
 ST> the Kurds. 

Bjorn hasn't the *foggiest* idea WRT conditions on Gitmo -- and 
he clearly doesn't want to know ... [sigh] ...

 > And how many have been executed in USA?
 > Same shift different places.

 ST> The Death penalty serves a greater good, and I'm glad we have it.  Who
 ST> wants  murder's let loose and moving in as our next door neighbors? 
 ST> (You??)  I  doubt it.  Again, you can't possibly compare the slaughter
 ST> of innocent men,  women and children to our death penalty.  You are
 ST> writing as though you  support the atrocities committed against the
 ST> Kurds by Saddam. If you want to  compare prisons, take a look at
 ST> German, Turkish, Polish, or even some of  England's prisons.  Whew --
 ST> they wouldn't pass "OSHA" standards here in the  US, that's for damn
 ST> sure. 

Bjorn has no idea as to the many *years*, the many *appeals* 
convicts go through until they're finally executed.  Then it's 
only the worst of the worst who receive that penalty.  Bjorn 
knows nothing about it and doesn't want to learn.

 > That has not passed un-noticed but how much have been done for the blacks
 > in the south of USA? And for those 50 million people that can't afford a 
 > healt-
 > care insurance?

 ST> What in the hell are you talking about?  You have Absolutely NO idea
 ST> what  you are writing about... You've pulled apart some reports from
 ST> the  drive-by-media and accept them as fact.  There IS health care
 ST> available to  the indigent from the federal govt. and the state govts. 
 ST> Blacks?  They have  as much --- if not more (due to affirmative action)
 ST> rights and privileges  than Caucasians.  We are MUCH more advanced
 ST> regarding equal rights than most  (if not all) countries in Europe. 
 ST> I'm "From" the south, and therefore have  a very personal knowledge. 
 ST> ANYONE can afford health care in this country,  they simply have to
 ST> apply for a program.  I work at the local homeless  shelter and council
 ST> people specifically on their health care options.  The  problem isn't a
 ST> lack of funding or programs, it's simply that about  22million don't
 ST> give a crap and don't apply for any. 

I couldn't help but laugh when I read *that* crap by Bjorn.  He 
must have been reading some Civil War era slavery news ... he 
thinks Blacks are routinely lynched in the South ... heh heh heh 
...

 > And how many of those dies every year due to lack of treatment?

 ST> There are MANY who "refuse" treatment, or fall down a well, can't get
 ST> to a  hospital on time, or whatever -- but it is a federal crime to
 ST> refuse life  saving treatment to any human being in this country (legal
 ST> or illegal  immigrant -- doesn't matter) regardless of health insurance
 ST> coverage. 
 
 ST> BJ, based on your writings you really don't have any idea what it's
 ST> like  over here.  I don't know if you've based you knowledge on movies,
 ST> euro  papers, or just reading all the bad things that Felen has written
 ST> about us  over the years, but your views are very "wrong".....
 
His views are so unlike reality I wonder *where* he gets them.

 > Afraid of being criticized....?

 ST> Not at all -- just as long as it's "true".

Something else, Bjorn, won't understand ...

... Daydreaming:  Wishcraft.

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