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Skriven 2006-07-10 19:22:56 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 33258 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
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 FS>>>> Killing in self-defense is fully justified ... [sigh] ...

 BF>>> Isn't that a "human" law or can you give a reference to where it says so
 BF>>> in the Bible?

 RW>> Give a Biblical reference where murder by your God wasn't breaking his
 RW>> own law!

 BF>> Since I don't believe in *any* God I don't read the Bible so I can't give
 BF>> you any reference.

 FS> So why the reference to the Bible??

It's you who is the Christian of us two so you should know so if you told me
where in the Bible it says that killing in self-defence is fully justified I
could
look it up.

 BF>> About abortion, we have to settle when life begin. Is it at birth, then
 BF>> what's the problem?

 FS> LIfe begins at conception.  That's factual.

By your fact but does everyone else agree with you? Then we should add
another nine months to our age but we don't.

 FS> Unfortunately, to serve their
 FS> own ends, the pro-abortion people like to pretend life is a function of
 FS> *age*.  Many say if a person is nine months old, and is breathing unaided,
 FS> he's a person.  One second prior to birth he's a ... a ... well, who
 FS> knows?

An embryo? If it isn't, when does an embryo turn into a child? After one month,
after two or when it have fingers or a functional liver?

 BF>> About euthanasia, that's against the law here as well so that shows how
 BF>> much *you* know about us but I *think* it's OK in the Nederlands.

 FS> Euthanasia can be thought as long-delayed abortion.  It's also murder.

It depends on how it's done, doesn't it?
With a leathal injection like in US prisons it isn't that long delayed. 3 to 5
sec.
or something like that.

 BF>> MvD? Passive euthanasia however is OK and that means that if someone is
 BF>> getting so bad so life only will be upheld with machines we don't do just
 BF>> anything to keep the patient alive if the relatives and the Doc. agrees

 FS> But *that's* not "euthanasia", that's merely common sense ... it's the
 FS> ethical path to follow.

Roy did have a totaly different opinion so you see that it isn't that easy.

 BF>> as with my father. After over 15
 BF>> years at a ward for long-term patients after a stroke he got another one
 BF>> and this
 BF>> made him so bad and the Docs. said that they could keep him alive for a
 BF>> while with machines but we decidet not to go through with it.

 RW>> Hypocrisy such as yours is abundant everywhere, not just in the USA.

 BF>> Sure it is but we don't kill with one hand and demand life to be sacred
 BF>> with the other.

 FS> Neither do *we*, so there's no argument there.

Ehhh.....you do have death penalty, don't you? Thought we had agreed to that.

 FS> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20

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