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Text 35184, 190 rader
Skriven 2006-07-29 18:34:32 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 35062 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
Ärende: Canadian "Skills"
=========================
29 Jul 06 15:09, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Roy Witt:

 CS> *** Quoting Roy Witt from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS>> his neck so now can drive again (severe arthritis stuff).

 RW>> Like carpal tunnel? I'm working on a cure for that.

 CS> (Joe's arthritis). No.

 CS>   Well, Joe's case is some odd type that affects the neck and hips
 CS> pretty badly.  Not at all related to Carpal Tunnel.

No doubt.

 CS> I have that, or something close to it.  Symptoms close but not the
 CS> narrowing tunnel for the nerves.  They havent figured it out and I
 CS> just learned to live with it.

 CS> 800 mg Motrims are my friend <G>.

That's nasty stuff. My FIL was dying of bone cancer and had a drawer full
of it. His final days were on again, off again excruciating pain. They put
him on morphine; he asked for more. No go, they say he'd get addicted to
it. Big deal. Poor man died from the pain, not the desease.

 RW>>> fi hub...he was very good at it too. His replacement, John Himes,
 RW>>> wasn't nearly as good. John and I went round and round about the
 RW>>> way his syst

 CS>> I had the misfortune to be under this OZ guy who would be down for
 CS>> days at a time then blame me for not connecting.

 RW>> Sounds like John Himes. The blame game, I mean. I even asked Brenda
 RW>> if could take his place as I knew I could do a better job than John.
 RW>> That when she assigned me to Andy.

 CS> Yes.  He'd get mad at me for trying to dial in to get my mail, if you
 CS> can believe that.

And Himes would get mad because I'd call into get it, and his system
wasn't serving it. That was MY fault...

 CS>> Fact is by then, I probably made him uncomfortable as i was a better
 CS>> hub than he was and was feeding more systems (points with full BBSes
 CS>> under them, yes, they paid CRP).  Due to 'conflict of interest' as
 CS>> the treasurer though, I didnt want to be a hub.

 RW>> I wouldn't have minded at the time, as I had a few extra PCs setup
 RW>> the

 CS> For me, I just felt 'uncomfortable' with the idea that I'd have to
 CS> cut my own downlinks if they didnt pay me on time.  Note, I seldom
 CS> had to make any 'cuts' as i'd work with folks and lots of others
 CS> would donate a few extra dollars and say 'to whoegver needs it'.  CRP
 CS> was normally under 5$ a quarter.  I understand something happened
 CS> later in the management to make it higher, but that has no relation
 CS> to me.  I saw it drop as low as 78cents once.

When I first started it was less than 1.25$...that's because of all the
people in the net drawing mail. As the net started to thin out, the CRP
went up...what I didn't like was the 5 days that there was no mail because
the machines weren't fixed, although there was plenty of dough in the
kitty.

 CS>> Andy was great.  At some point, he was my hub as well.  Funny thing
 CS>> is we entered at about the same time and had helped one another get
 CS>> setup.

 RW>> Don't know about when the two of you started, but Andy had more
 RW>> links other FTNs than anybody I know of. It could be that he was a
 RW>> little bi more experienced by the time he met you.

 CS> Grin, perhaps you misundersand this one.  Andy and i were 'butt
 CS> buddies' who setup at the same time.  His experience and mine matched
 CS> except at the one point I was doing the CRP thing and he was a hub.
 CS> Our othernet experiences were mostly him as my NC, me RC feeding him
 CS> and other NC's in west coast.

Ahhh, so you both gained experience from the same sources.

 CS>>   He shifted to hub while I was the Net202 Treasurer.  (I gather the
 CS>> fellow who took that over from me at last wasnt nearly as
 CS>> careful and there was an interim fellow for a bit who was fired and
 CS>> i had to come back in sometime around 1994).

 RW>> And there were some just like those after you left. I was sick of
 RW>> thei CRP by 97.

 CS> It wasnt managed with the heart along with the need to just pay the
 CS> bills. My system was simple.  If you pay more than the amount and
 CS> dont expressly add a note with what to do with that, it goes to
 CS> offset the next quarter's CRP.  If you add a note to use it where I
 CS> think best, a fellow sysop with adversity may be paid off for their
 CS> CRP.  If you add a note to put it in the machine fund, it will be
 CS> repair money for the mailer.

I just mailed the check...all I cared about was the mail...

 CS> I can honestly be proud of the early NET202 CRP setup as it was the
 CS> most fair one in all Fidonet and many places tried to model off of
 CS> us.  The only 'bad' thing I ever did was 'ask' folks to not show up
 CS> on my doorstep at mid-night to pay in person, but I never turned
 CS> anyone away who did that. (Bitched gently in the sysop echos but no
 CS> names mentioned ever on who had done it).  Took payments at every
 CS> sysop breakfast or by mail, your choice. Oh, couldnt logistically
 CS> manage advance quarter payments because it was just too many people
 CS> and not stable enough in cost. It was after all, home hobby stuff not
 CS> a paying job.

Gotcha...

 RW>> If I recall right, there was one person in the net who hosted some
 RW>> of net computers and they were always going down for some reason or
 RW>> anoth Brenda finally went to the guys house and picked all of them
 RW>> up and go them back online, asap.

 CS> I think I heard of that.  PC Conect by then too right?

I was too new to know what that was at the time. :o) Just send me the
mail.

 CS>> Yup.  Got voted in 6 months before I finished my stint on the
 CS>> STENNIS but told'em we'd need to wait so another fellow took it til
 CS>> i could transfer. He did a good job.  6 months or so after that, I
 CS>> was appointed as temp RC13 pending election (the old one became
 CS>> Z1C). See, I'd made the mistake of saying i wanted to learn more and
 CS>> asked some good questions in the regional echo <g>.

 RW>> LOL! See what you get yourself into...

 CS> Well, I B Stupid <g>.

 CS>> *chuckle* I'm as complex as a tube sock as said so believe me when I
 CS>> say that by now, I know alot about*C things at all levels of the
 CS>> game.  I'm not particularily good with filebone, but I can meet any
 CS>> need in any other area and can manage that one 'well enough'.

 RW>> Sounds like it.

 CS> I'm still not 'good' with filebone.  Janis is so much better, I cant
 CS> imagine the tricks she must know.  I'm a better 'hub' though for
 CS> message traffic, not that she's bad.

Heh, I remember the day that Bob Kohl told me that I couldn't get files
from him because files aren't sent via Fidonet...

 CS>> never had a fight?

 RW>> Yes, but we've had our differences too.

 CS> Oh sure!  I've had them with many, you not alone in that!

 CS>> opposite ends of a situation but even then we were overall decent to
 CS>> one another.

 RW>> I endeavor to be decent to those who reciprocate the same. Those
 RW>> peopl usually have my respect, whether they're right or wrong.

 CS> {smile}.

Yes, you're included.

 RW>> When I'm attacked or accused of something out of the blue, I
 RW>> retaliate kind until they're either buried up to their necks in it
 RW>> or call a tru Some people don't know when to give it up, so they
 RW>> stay on the 'shit' list.

 CS> Yes, thats you.  Me, I divert them mostly and find a common ground.
 CS> The only one i never could do that with, was that R12C fellow who's
 CS> long gone other than a no-bogus entry at my mailer.  When I realized
 CS> at last I just couldnt even enjoy Fidonet and was about to quit due
 CS> to his constant flamers at me, I got some help with how to filter
 CS> mail out.

Was his name Mike O'Conner?

 CS> Whats never made sense to me was he hated me because my region was
 CS> more progressive than his on the same things he beat me up on.  Oh
 CS> well.  He's gone and I'm still here.
 CS>                                        xxcarol

If it was O'Conner, he wasn't liked by many because of some of the tricks
he played...like taking a poll of the region and then voting for someone
they didn't like as ZC...


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