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Text 35282, 84 rader
Skriven 2006-07-30 15:51:43 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 35218 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Israel
==============
Hello Björn.

30 Jul 06 07:45, you wrote to me:


 BF>>> As Felten said, they claim to be mainstream Americans so all you
 BF>>> have to do is to stand up against it and show us that it isn't
 BF>>> so and as we all outside USA have said so many times and I hope
 BF>>> you will get it this time.

 JS>>      They can claim anything that they choose. It is up to you to
 JS>> be smart enough to know when they are talking out their other
 JS>> somewhat puckered orafice. I can claim to speak for any group or
 JS>> country. That sure a heck don't make it so. If you think I do I
 JS>> also have some swampland for sale. <g>

 BF> Of course you have a point but.....


     There HAS to be a "but" with you doesn't there?


 BF>>>  No one hates the American people, just those who claim they
 BF>>> are mainstream Americans and are constantly bashing everyone
 BF>>> else outside (and inside) the US to be idiots and put themself
 BF>>> (like Roy above) in diamond houses.


 JS>>      They why use terms like "Typical American attitude" if you
 JS>> are refering to only 2-4 individuals? There may be another 299+
 JS>> million Americans that might not say or claim to speak for anyone
 JS>> but themselves. You are letting them pull your chains and in so
 JS>> doing proving their point to them. If I think you are full of
 JS>> crap regarding an attitude or statement that you have made. I am
 JS>> not foolish enough to think or assume that others, many, most, or
 JS>> all of your country people think the same way. I look at people
 JS>> as individuals and try my best to treat them accordingly.

 BF> ....the other day I happend to see an American program about dog shows
 BF> and they are so damn extreme like anything we see from America. Those
 BF> who makes motorcycles, Monster Garage, you name it, nothing is done in
 BF> a normal way and then we meet the same extremism here. I'm the best,
 BF> I'm the biggest, I'm the loudest,


     While I can't speak for how other Americans may choose to feel. I
will say that the average American attitude does contain a certain amount
of 'We are the best'. That is not a bad thing. This says to me that we will
try to be the best at what we choose to be. Which often times also involves
being the biggest and the loudest. That does not prevent you and/or your
countrymen and women from feeling the same way about yourselves. The area
where I think it may cause problems is when that attitude is taken to
extremes. As in we are the best and you are no better than naval lint and
should no longer exist. Which is something I do not see in basic American
attitude. I think that the position that America occupies in the global
picture there is bound to be a certain amount of errogance. But I do not
see that errogance in any unexpected amount or that it is causing any
problems. Except for those that may have already decided that Americans
are bad and that most anything about the American way somehow contributes
to that feeling of Americans being bad.


 BF>  *uck the rest so what the heck shall
 BF> we think and then people like you comes in the background but when you
 BF> finally speak up you make (at least me) wonder, why are the otheres so
 BF> loud? What's their problem? And you don't really see any of that
 BF> bulying manners from someone outside of the US unless we're provoked.


    That is because that is what you CHOOSE to think. As I have already
stated. Try treating people based on how THEY act and not based on some
preconceived notion regarding what country they may come from. I may think
that one of your countrymen is an ass. But that doesn't mean that I will
apply that opinion to you until such a time as YOU show me that you deserve
it.


 BF> ---
 BF>  * Origin: . (2:203/614.61)

Jeff

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