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Text 35317, 55 rader
Skriven 2006-07-29 04:32:48 av Bob Ackley (1:2905/3)
  Kommentar till text 34945 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Israel
==============
 MvdV> And I am not sure if if is correct to label Hezbolla as a terrorist
 MvdV> organisation. It is also a political party and they have seats in
 MvdV> the democratically choosen Libanese government.

They were a terrorist outfit long before they opened up their political arm.
So, FTM, were the Stern Gang, the Irgun and the IRA.

 MvdV> That is the price of democracy. If you promote it, you must accept
 MvdV> that people make choices you don't like.

 BA>>>> If they went by ship, I'm pretty sure that US Intel knows where
 BA>>>> just about every freighter is on the planet, and what's in it.

 MvdV>>> I doubt that.

 BA>> They had a pretty good handle on such things thirty-plus years ago
 BA>> when I worked in Intel,

 MvdV> Or so you thought....

 BA>>  I doubt that the ability has diminished.

 MvdV> US Intel has been proven wrong on mnay occasions during the  last 30
 MvdV> years...

It is an inexact science.  But to blame US intel for the mess in the middle
east
is, IMO, wrong.  Most of the intel was *right*, but IMO this country's
leadership
was bent on starting a shooting war no matter what the intel said.

 BA>> In any case, apparently the leader of Hezbollah has claimed he has
 BA>> 12,000 missiles (or had before he started firing them).

 MvdV> He may be playing a game of bluff poker. Maybe he has already fired
 MvdV> most of what he has. Or maybe not. Maybe he has 50.000...

 BA>> I've read that most came from Iran

 MvdV> You should not believe evryting you read...

I don't.

 BA>>  - not surprising since Iran has been a sponsor of the outfit for
 BA>> over a decade - and were apparently flown to Damascus on Iranian
 BA>> cargo jets for delivery to Hezbollah.

 MvdV> And /if/ they came from Iran, where did Iran get them from?

Good question.  I don't know what Iran's manufacturing capabilities are.
It's possible that at least some of them were made in Iran, but chances are
the missiles were made in the old Soviet Union or in mainland China, or both.

--- FleetStreet 1.19+
 * Origin: Bob's Boneyard, Emerson, Iowa (1:2905/3)