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Skriven 2006-08-05 22:08:43 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 35543 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
Ärende: Massive European Guilt!
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 ST> Although you pissed me off with that statement regarding Hating Americans,
 ST> I'll -- for the sake of argument -- give you that perhaps it wasn't
 ST> exactly what you meant.  I respect Herman Neut -- and he has never lied to
 ST> me before, and I don't expect he ever would.  On the other hand, you have
 ST> lied to me before, so I had no reason to expect you to tell me the truth.
 ST> Herman vouched for your explanation, so I'll accept it.

Why are you then keeping it up or was the above a lie?

 ST> As for "leaving" -- good god man -- grow some thicker skin!

Why must I grow a thicker skin to cummunicate with you? Wouldn't it be better
for you to grow up to communicate with me?

 ST>  AND -- quit
 ST> making this an "American" issue!!  "I" am not making this a Swedish issue,
 ST> and therefore, you stereotyping Americans really 'is' a sign of prejudice
 ST> --
 ST> perhaps not so overtly as you realize or want to admit to yourself, but it
 ST> is just the same.

Perhaps in your eyes but why don't I (along with many others)  have a
problem with anyone else than you, Dan, Roy and Frank? Then you can't be
examples of good Americans. I don't have any problem with anyone else in
any other echo. Strange, isn't it?

 ST> If you must leave, do so.... But remember, you made the decision to leave
 ST> --
 ST> nobody actually "kicked you out".

And what did you then mean by Leave!?

 ST> However, "I" recommend you take a short
 ST> break, and then come back.  Just take a week or maybe 3 days.

And now when I have done that, have anythig improved?
I still se that Roy and Frank bicker about me, Roy and Dan are still bickering
and you are still saying that I hate Americans and Roy is still bashing
Europeans and almost everyone except you, Dan and Frank.
Everything is as usual, just like a normal day at work, eh?

 ST> Start fresh
 ST> by not reading anything from within that 3 days (or week) and you may find
 ST> things have calmed down

Really?

 ST> (it's a trick really -- because you are the only
 ST> one who is really spun up).

Again, really?

 ST> I don't necessarily want you to leave, but I
 ST> sincerely hope you won't continue to make things an "American" issue as
 ST> you have been doing.

I have realized that it isn't. It's a Roy, Frank, Dan and a Shannon issue.

 ST> Realize that "people are people" -- wherever you are --
 ST> regardless of the city -- the country -- the continent -- people are
 ST> people. And, people in real life are rarely the personalities they are in
 ST> the echos.

Again, really? Isn't it here in the echos they really can show who they are
where they don't have to hide behind any masks to conceal it from the family?

 ST> It's like that fanatical driver who honks their horn and yells obstinacies
 ST> out the window, and after they get to their destination, you see a 4ft
 ST> tall old lady walk out and deliver food to the homeless.

Sounds like the four mentioned above.

 ST> Whatever your decision, don't base it on anything that "I" or anyone else
 ST> tells you.

So when you say Leave! I shouldn't listen to you. Fair enough.

>> BF>> I agree that this was written in anger but I still stand for it.
>> Assholes
>> BF>> like he drags the American people in the dirt.
BF>> it their own way. Pity though that those two are the living proof of how
 ST> the
BF>> world thinks about Americans.

 ST> See the above statement?  That's what I'm talking about.  You aren't the
 ST> "World" nor can you possibly represent the "World".  That's "YOUR"
 ST> Opinion, and it's obviously offensive.

Offensive or not, that's how it has been since the Vietnam war to you from the
rest of the world and you can't possibly have missed that and it's you, the
loudspeakers, that have given us that delusive opinion so you have yourself to
blaim and why don't you condemn Frank and Roy when they insults the rest of
the world in general and Europe in particular?
That's from where I get this. Then it's OK but don't say a bad word about USA.
And as you say about Israel, even we have the right to defend ourself but in
this
case it doesn't apply I guess.

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