Text 36109, 81 rader
Skriven 2006-08-07 20:05:14 av Stewart Arnett (3:772/100)
  Kommentar till text 36039 av Joe Delahaye (48190.fidonews)
Ärende: Massive European Guilt!
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Hello Joe.

06 Aug 06 11:44, you wrote to FRANK SCHEIDT:


 >> By pointing out the fact that Europe, during the past two or
 >> three centuries has been a parasite on America, that bothers you?
 >> Why not admit, then, then Europe *has* been such an international
 >> parasite?  That's a fact, so it shouldn't be too difficult for
 >> you to admit.


 JD> Frank, you are a complete asshole.  Man what an opinion you have of
 JD> yourself and of America.  I certainly am glad that not every American
 JD> shares your view.  Crawl back into your hole please.


You forgot to tell him to seal the hole so he can't ever get out again, what an
idiot, if he only studied history properly he would be aware that the USofA is
one of the largest "parasites" on the planet. The Gross National Product of the
country as a whole proves that, where does the money that America uses to wage
war with come from ? Industry ? Possibly, but probably not, mostly from revenue
earned from "third world" american ( I use the lower case deliberately) owned
slave camps. Peanuts ... Somalia ... ring a bell ? One of the reasons I buy my
coffee beans green from a grower in the high country of India and roast them
myself, (other than they taste better that way) is that they at least get the
real amount for growing them with no go betweens.

One of the reasons we have so many problems on this planet is because of the
actions of political (Countries) entities over the last couple of millenia. On
the face of it the crusades were a "religious war" in that the 'Crusaders" went
to free the "holyland" from the oppressive "muslims", oddly enough much of the
"OLD" money in Europe came from the rewards of the "Crusades". "Amazing Grace
how great thou art"  John Newton ... where did he sell his slaves before he
wrote that hymn? Many peoples have had "empires" Rome, Britain, Netherlands and
America (though their's financial rather than millitary). Rome lost theirs
because they fought internally, Britain gave theirs away and the Dutch, mostly
cos' they couldn't tie knots (and still can't from my observation).

It is the desire for profit (lust for or worship of money) that has lead to the
creation and destruction of these empires, why, because that lust leads to the
desire for power. This is why the "muslim" (note the quotation marks) hate the
Western world so much, they have been the target of these desires so often so
who is to blame them for their hatred of us, not them but we ourselves, our
ancestors, whom it was that lead these "holy" crusades for wealth.

The USofA is in this time a "parasite" on the poor and mostly muslim nations
and the laugh of it is, on one side the government of the USofA is offering aid
and help to the devastated and war torn part of the globe, while on the other
hand its business community is plundering the same places because of their own
greed and desire for power. Frank sees the one and not the other, and thus
mistakenly sees his country for the "angels of peace" some of his country is,
but misses the whole of the destitution his country causes in other areas
because he is blind to that damage.

America is not only at fault, now and as in the past most of the industrial
nations have to conceed their part in the blame for this present planetary
problem. We see it in action in this echo, people pick on others because they
are "American" Swedish" "Dutch" ( I call the Dutch Neandethals, but then
probably no one has to work with a Dutchman like the one I have to work with,
so that is totally tongue in cheek) I will pick on individuals, never on
countries. I will pick on Frank because he is stupidly nationalistic, Roy
because he is a capital shit stirrer, Shannon quoted John Lennon in Imagine,
perhaps Cliff Richards with From a Distance would have been better as a quote.

Perhaps it is time, not to get sweety nice with each other, to realise we all
live on one planet, America, Russia, Sweden, France, Australia, New Zealand,
Zones one,two, three, four, five and six all are planet Earth. Somewhere
someone has to decide whether they want their children to grow up in the mess
they leave behind or not to have to grow up in a mess. For heavens sake, take
the piss out of each other, don't start another world war, don't be so bloody
serious will yahs.  You and I have to be able to say something like, I never
went there but in fido there was this Roy witt, real shit stirrer and gave us
arseholes, but want an exhaust design for a small bore riceburner, he'd do it
no trouble and he lived there. Teach the next generation and leave something
worthwhile, maybe we can't fix it, but maybe they can.

Stewart

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