Text 37183, 151 rader
Skriven 2006-08-21 19:07:24 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 37144 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Bic lighter?                        was: Frank - take a break (was CELE
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21 Aug 06 21:03, Björn Forsström wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>>>>>> Differenet rules in different countries?
 BF>>>>> Is that a smart thing to have?
 RW>>>> Depends<tm>...
 BF>>> On what?
 RW>> A lot of things.
 BF> Name one.

See below...there's more than one mentioned in each segment of these
posts.

 BF>>>>> In Thailand they didn't bother,
 RW>>>> They don't bother in Mexico either. Know why?
 BF>>> Haven't been to Mexico so I haven't a clue.
 RW>> Because they also sleep with the terrorists.
 BF> Oh, and what terrorist acts have they done?

None yet...but it's a well known fact that Arabic terrorists are entering
Mexico, learning how to speak and dress like a native and then paying a
coyote to get them across the border into the US. Many have been arrested
and either detained or released, depending on what HLS laws were being
enforced at the time.

 BF>>>>> in Finland it should be in my pocket and in USA it should be in
 BF>>>>> the suitcase.
 RW>>>> Well obviously the Fins have it figured out. If you carry it in
 RW>>>> your pocket, it's easier to confiscate.
 BF>>> You still haven't got it I see.
 RW>> No, I think it's the other way around.
 BF> Really?

Yeup...

 BF>>> If it was in my pocket it wouldn't be confiscated.
 RW>> Now I know you don't get it. If it's in your pocket, you will lose
 RW>> it because when you get to the gate, you have to empty your pockets
 RW>> and go through a metal detector before you gain entry. If there's no
 RW>> lighters allowed on board the airplane, that's a foregone
 RW>> conclusion.

 BF> That's not what the Fins answered me and so far the one in my pocket
 BF> haven't been any problem.

The Fins aren't very worried about terrorists. Try it at a US port of
entry.

 BF>>>  One lighter per person and it should be in the pocket.
 RW>> Not here.
 BF> How do you know that?

For one, I know people who've had theirs taken. For another, Janis just
stated here that hers was confiscated on her flight to or from Las Vegas.

 BF>>> You are not allowed to use a cell phone either so that should also
 BF>>> be confiscated?
 RW>> You are allowed to use a cell phone, when the flight crew deams it
 RW>> to be not harmful to the aircraft.

 BF> And that is during flying and as far as I know (at least here) it
 BF> isn't allowed to use them in any plane above a certain hight because
 BF> then they will reach too far and that can disturb the systems
 BF> hand-over to another base station.

Cell phones, by their nature are very short waved RF devices, in fact on
the order of micro waves. If you get too high in the air, it's probable
that you won't be able to reach a cell site to make a call. Not to mention
the Faraday affect on a hand-held RF device without an external antenna.
External meaning on the outside of the aircraft.

 BF>>> And you are not allowed to drink anything else than what they sell
 BF>>> on the plane either so the bottles in the hand luggage can also be
 BF>>> confiscated.
 RW>> What!? That's a new one. If there's a restriction against bringing
 RW>> your own, then they're just wanting you to buy theirs...
 BF> You can bring it but not drink it.

I think there's something about the consumption of alcohol on long flights
that tends to dehydrate the body, not to mention that the affects of
alcohol are supposedly tripled by the altitudes traveled.

 BF>>>  If they take the lighter, why don't they take the cigaretts as
 BF>>> well?
 RW>> Because the cigarette is only flamable when you apply an outside
 RW>> source of fire. You don't think very logically, do you.

 BF> Oh, so matches doesn't have the same effect as a lighter?

Where do you see anything I mentioned about that? I said that tobacco is
not self igniting, meaning that you would need an outside source to get it
to burn; matches, lighters, etc...

 BF> To set things on fire?

?

 RW>>>> If you do smoke, that's too bad, because you're not allowed to
 RW>>>> smoke on-board US flights (thank gawd for that little miracle).
 BF>>> I'm not allowed to smoke on any flight as far as I know but that
 BF>>> doesn't make it illegal for me to have a lighter.
 RW>> Depends(tm)
 BF> On what?

Where you're flying, for one.

 RW>>>> There's also not many places to light up in US airports (my
 RW>>>> specific experience is San Diego, Kansas City, Denver, San Antonio
 RW>>>> and Chicago - did I mention that I hate commercial flying), thus
 RW>>>> no reason to even have a lighter, until you get to the parking
 RW>>>> lot.
 BF>>> But....but the lighter was confiscated....
 RW>> Have you noticed that you're using too many . in your elipses'?
 BF> Have you noticed that you are starting to sound like Frank when he's
 BF> out of arguments?

Whether or not Frank and/or I have 'run out of arguements' depends on the
person with whom we are having a discussion. If the person is as dense as
a fence post, it probably looks that way to them, but to those who're a
bit more of a hip thinker, it probably passes as logical.

 BF>>> And there are smoke-rooms at Gothenburg, Stockholm, Helsinki,
 BF>>> Athens, Bangkok, Puerto Plata (Domenican) Varna (Bulgaria) and at
 BF>>> every little island in Greece but without a lighter it's rather
 BF>>> difficult to make the damn thing caught fire.
 RW>> Have you noticed that none of those places are in the US?
 BF> And....? Doesn't anyone smoke in the US?

Asked the fence post...

 BF>>> Affter 10 hours in the air I don't want to wait until I get to the
 BF>>> bus where they not may even have a electric lighter.
 RW>> After 10 hours, you've nearly got that nasty habit licked. Why light
 RW>> up now?

 BF> That's my problem, not the airport securities.

So why do you continue that nasty habit?

 BF>>> Haven't seen a match in years, are they still available?
 RW>> Where do you buy your cigarettes, in a candy store?

 BF> I make my own from raw tobaco ordered by mail so....?

LOL! I'll bet they'll sell you some matches too.

               R\%/itt


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