Text 40191, 124 rader
Skriven 2006-09-28 16:30:18 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
  Kommentar till text 40182 av BOB KLAHN (1:123/140)
Ärende: The bad news is...
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Hello BOB!

28 Sep 06 16:19, you wrote to me:

 RC>> My complaint is, that not every echo you pollute is a
 RC>> political debate echo along the lines of what you are used
 RC>> to elsewhere.

 BK>  Now I'm not sure. Are you saying you think reasoned discourse is
 BK>  polluting an echo? Or is it just disagreeing with you that is
 BK>  polluting an echo?

Reasoned discourse isnt cutting and pasting a web page into a fidonet message
and calling it debate.

Yourself, Whiney Wayne and Sauer seem to think you all are the only ones who
know how to surf the Internet and are the only ones allowed to have an opinion
on anything.

 RC>> The topic drift in here is bad enough without you trying to
 RC>> solidify it, but we like our topic drift, but not on your
 RC>> terms simply because you randomly peeked in. (Which I doubt
 RC>> you did)

 BK>  A: I never once even hinted I randomly peeked in. Someone in
 BK>  another echo posted some commetary about this echo that didn't
 BK>  make sense to me. So I looked in to see what he was talking
 BK>  about. Now I understand it.

Thought so..

 BK>  B: What are the terms of topic drift? I haven't seen them
 BK>  posted.


The topic drift goes across the spectrum, usually themed around Fidonet
procedures, or the differences between USA ways and the ways things are done in
Europe, copyrights and piracy  and how divisive the current editor of the
Fidonews has towards US based sysops.

Many of the Euro's feel the same way about Iraq/Bush that you do, which should
not be a revelation, that does not mean this echo is yet another depository for
your cutting and pasting.

Not every echo is ripe for the political debate you so crave and can find
plenty of, elsewhere, in grounds you already stomp upon.

 BK>  I did something I hadn't done previously in this echo. I read
 BK>  every message in this packet. Of all of them, there are a very
 BK>  few on one thread on the topic of Fido news. There are a whole
 BK>  bunch bickering about echo operations. And a whole bunch making
 BK>  little sense at all.

So why would you contribute to that, knowing what this echoes purpose is for,
you let little Lofaso tell you to make you into a lesser person, oh hell, you
are a libby, that explains the lesserness.

 BK>  There are very few making any real sense, and those not on
 BK>  topic.

So if they dont make sense, why would yours make sense of to others since you
are blindly treating this echo like its POL_DISORDER, POL_INC et al?

 BK>  I did *NOT*, however, note you moderating all those other
 BK>  messages.

There is too much history for you to grasp, most people who walked in here with
no understanding, left because they couldnt figure it out, you just want to add
more dust to the cyclone.

 BK>  Does this mean your only real objection is to opening a thread
 BK>  on a rational topic?


No, I object to you as a newcomer treating this echo as a political debate
echo.. Especially when you know it is not.

If you wanted riper ground to trot your political cravings around, I am
surprised you havent poked your head into CROSSFIRE?

 RC>> In the DEBATE echo, I am sure there is drift there as well,
 RC>> what if I came in, during such drift and themed all my
 RC>> posts in there on such drift?

 BK>  Uh... read the echo name. Debate. Not poltical debate. Not
 BK>  philosophical debate. Just debate. We were all snow white, but
 BK>  we drifted. To Quote a virginal movie star of the 30s, 40s, 50s,
 BK>  etc.

But what if the topic drift was about how you killed your first wife and it was
dwelled on...

 RC>> This is Fi-do-news, its not POL_INC.

 BK>  I was surprised, when I logged in, how few people realize that.

Whats important is that you do, but the fact that you do and proceed to
exacerbate things by regarding this echo for something it is not, speaks
volumes as to why you are here..

You state that you dont understand whats being talked about in here, you are
incapable of comprehending the fact that it doesnt make this a political debate
echo.

 RC>> Let me guess, if you popped into the WIN95 echo during one
 RC>> of its many topic drifts, you would assume the echo is for
 RC>> POLITICAL debate?

 BK>  If the gist of the debate was over politics, I just might.

I suppose you would, Lefto wingnuts like you have no ethics.

 BK>  Is there anyone in the Win 95 echo these days?

Plenty, all versions of windows gets discussed in there..

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Ross
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