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Text 40651, 58 rader
Skriven 2006-10-04 10:09:18 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
  Kommentar till text 40603 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: DUD-file
================
> Hello Janis.

> 04 Oct 06 01:48, you wrote to me:

>> And I am suprised to see that you don't consider what Michiel and
>> Bjorn did, in limiting Fidonews distribution on Web-based bbs's like
>> Shannon's as not violating polcicy 4, section 4.5.  It's quite clear.
>> Sysops are encouraged in that section to make fidonews available to
>> the public.

> The only reason I say that is that I believe, based on what I know, that the
>copyright notice in no way limited the distribution anyway.  In other words, i
> was never a problem.

Here, perhaps.. I'm not an expert at Copyright law, and even though it's been
pointed out to me that what you say is true, it still goes against what we
normally do on the FileGate, and that is to honor author's requests regarding
distribution at all times.  Additionally, the FileGate maintains a HUB
(SuperSite) in the Netherlands where Michiel lives (in his net as a matter of
fact).

>> I am not the first to edit or remove text from an issue of Fidonews,
>> Matt. John Souvestre also removed offensive text from Fidonews and
>> resent the file into the stream.

> Really?  Was this during his later years or much earlier because I do not
> remember it (not saying I do not believe you).  I just always felt traffic
>should not be altered.  Do you have an idea what issue this way?  Just for the
> sake of curiousity.

I was not around then either, this was long ago, but I know it happened.  I can
try to find out more details for you.

> For the record, I do not believe content should be
> altered, but if it genuinely is a problem, filtered completely.  But again, I
> do not believe the MvDV copyright in any way limited the distribution in Z1.

Yes, that's what was done.  The file was removed and replaced with a file that
only stated, This file has been removed from Distribution.  This is how all of
the files that were illegal were removed from Gamesnet's file echo.. the list
was huge!  I don't know if you were around then.. perhaps not.

Editing the file would have involved say removing that copyright, or Michiel's
article itself... I would never do that.

>> I'm hoping they realize it's wrong to do this.  They now admit however
>> that they think it is funny somehow.

> Did you reject the issue because it contained the extra copyright?

Yes, as I explained here in the echo in a post regarding why that file was
going to be removed..

Take care,
Janis

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